Intel i5-9600K Review vs. R7 2700, R5 2600, i7-8700K, et al.


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    We benchmarked the Intel i5-9600K for gaming, production, and overclocking.
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    Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3407-intel-i5-9600k-cpu-review-vs-2700-2600-8700k
    Intel's i5-9600K is the next in line with the 9900K and 9700K (the latter of which we haven't worked with yet), serving a more mid-range market at ~$250. The 9600K runs 6C/6T, similar to the 8600K, but has been updated with solder and higher native clock speeds. Overclocking the 9600K is also interesting, something we do in the review video above.
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Vor 22 Tage
SuperJosteen
SuperJosteen

Can you do a comparison between 8700K and 9700K? It should be interesting since one is a 6 core 12 threads cpu while the successor is an 8 core 8 thread.

Vor 19 Tage
Martin Luther
Martin Luther

Did you shoot the CPU? was that a slug? lol wtf

Vor 19 Tage
delle do
delle do

I just wanted to tell you that I'm desperate for something like 3200cl16 vs 3200cl14 on Ryzen review. It would make me SMASH that like button. I'm unsure if smashing would have more impact than my regular like but I swear I'd try!

Vor 21 Tag
Tyronie balonie
Tyronie balonie

I would love to see the same video but with higher resolutions. Is the 9600k king at qhd and above?

Vor 21 Tag
delle do
delle do

+Xclio Dude even the 2700x wasnt in most of the benchmarks as well.

Vor 21 Tag
Brik Haus
Brik Haus

OMG, that 100ms latency is what I get on my 1700X ALL the time. Like ALL the time. That explains my stutter in literally every game.

Vor 8 Stunden
IeeTeY
IeeTeY

Is the 1.4V used on these chips done on purpose? I'm sure these overclocks are more achievable with lower voltages.

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Nelson Cruz
Nelson Cruz

I wonder if variance (from statistics) could be useful as a simple and "chartable" way to compare consistancy.

Vor 2 Tage
h2oaddict28
h2oaddict28

Not fast enough, not enough cores, inflated prices, spectre and meltdown not dealt with, still waiting for something reasonable to upgrade to.

Vor 3 Tage
Derek Thorson
Derek Thorson

One thing the 9600k has is diaper threading.

Vor 3 Tage
TomaattiKeitto
TomaattiKeitto

The funny thing is that for me here in Finland i5 9600k and 8600k have the same price (300e)

Vor 4 Tage
Dirk York
Dirk York

Until you run a 2700x with a Vega 64 and crush nvidia. This shit is always dishonest. Like not all gpus run the same from AMD and Nvidia, a 590 beats a 2070 in bf5. So don't listen to all this guy's bs Intel shill shit.

Vor 4 Tage
dogbird
dogbird

No battlefield 5 what?

Vor 4 Tage
Driveway Developments
Driveway Developments

I think you could have an unstable overclock hence the drops on the 0.1% low when overclocked.

Vor 6 Tage
NickBroccoli
NickBroccoli

Returning my 9600k due to microstutters. Struggles in the games I play like bfv and destiny 2.

Vor 6 Tage
Chris Laflamme
Chris Laflamme

I love me some bojangles.

Vor 8 Tage
EspHack
EspHack

if you already tasted 120hz or more, heck even 90hz, ryzen is just frustrating, i would go out of my way to avoid intel these days but there's that glaring problem still not solved, we need 6ghz ryzen 3 asap

Vor 12 Tage
Balla The Feared
Balla The Feared

First comparison shows me you have an unstable overclock you stupid fuck holy shit how do these people have channels?

Vor 12 Tage
Karthig1987
Karthig1987

8700k is clearly better but cpu+mobo here is a difference is 180 dollar difference.

Vor 13 Tage
Robert Stan
Robert Stan

You guys really don't have a R7 2700X? Are you for real? WTF is up with that? Also, your gaming benchmark suite is really bad, what is it representative of anyway? Jeez.

Vor 13 Tage
Yes No
Yes No

Care to explain this to me please? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57X79RrmoLk Why people lately praise this stutter shitfest aka shitryzen? Even 2700x at 4,3 downgrades 2080ti to 1070ti-1080 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGd92lu0LlU whats wrong with people nowadays? How come more weak cores better than few less but strong ones? Retarded amd shills so sick of this fanboys propaganda.

Vor 13 Tage
Mark Vincent Arcilla
Mark Vincent Arcilla

Im sorry i dont understand, what’s the difference between frame time and frames per sec? Which is more important? I always thought higher frame rates are better.

Vor 13 Tage
rusTORK
rusTORK

Why subtitles is Korean by default? =))

Vor 14 Tage
psycronizer
psycronizer

excellent review, undeniable logic and you get right to the nitty gritty so that the fan boys can no longer bury their heads in the sand...

Vor 14 Tage
lazarusledd91
lazarusledd91

i hope those Gamers Nexus T-shirts are elastic Steve.

Vor 15 Tage
LukaMasterz
LukaMasterz

Soo basically is the i5-9600k a good buy or not?

Vor 15 Tage
Hirens
Hirens

Guys, something is wrong with the 0.1% and 1% lows in your benchmarks. I did reproduce a few of your tests with an i5 9600k and *I didn't see those stutters* at all! For example in *Far Cry 5 didn't go below 92FPS* and I used an RTX 2070. I'll try to redoing the tests with an RTX 2080.

Vor 15 Tage
Cristian Velez
Cristian Velez

I was going to buy the 9600k now idk what to get :( I have a GTX 1080 strix, building my first pc, NEED HELP...

Vor 15 Tage
Pfadex3cut3r
Pfadex3cut3r

4770k @ 4,2 Cache @ 4,0 + DDR3 2400mhz with RTX 2080 Gaming on 3440x1440 Resoultion, I'm always GPU limited, why should I buy a new CPU?

Vor 15 Tage
Badtaste21
Badtaste21

I wouldn't compare 6-Cores without HT and 8-Cores with HT, since scaling could be a bigger problem than actual performance, likely causing some of the frametime issues we have seen.

Vor 15 Tage
M H
M H

Omg, i just started to pay notice how he steps back and forth basicly in same tempo through whole video 😂 I can't focus now

Vor 16 Tage
L3gitPotato
L3gitPotato

wondering if I should get the 9600k + cooler, or just the 8700. Since they're almost the same price

Vor 16 Tage
B3MMi
B3MMi

But... Why there's no proper 9700K review yet?

Vor 16 Tage
KyuketsuNinja
KyuketsuNinja

just bought a R5 2600 for 145€ and upgrade to r7 3700 later ....

Vor 17 Tage
Christian Thomas
Christian Thomas

I like what you did here I hate when the reviewers compare a cpu thats twice the price to another one

Vor 17 Tage
elitesnipergenJ
elitesnipergenJ

I am going from 10 frames on MW3 with a Celeron n2840 2.6 GHz to a I9 7920

Vor 17 Tage
Doskii
Doskii

So my recent purchase of a RTX 2070 and a i5 9600k was bad? I was thinking about going 9700k but it was like 200$ more expensive :/ And game benchmarks seemed to favor the 9600k over the 2700x (which had the same price at the time (Black Friday))

Vor 17 Tage
Euan Zhang
Euan Zhang

What happened to the i7 9700K

Vor 17 Tage
Zachary Redmon
Zachary Redmon

Thank you for taking the time to show frame timings. This is the only place i will ever look for product reviews when it comes to cpu and gpu products

Vor 17 Tage
Julian A. A. Young
Julian A. A. Young

I think the native subtitle track is set to Korean. I put auto translate on to english and it's translating sentences like, "Sun Abel prime flesh Harry Tony depicting Kim Sook's round 4 n Press Day today mothaedo zoom Paul Dano"

Vor 17 Tage
Jared Johnson
Jared Johnson

I got the 9600k because it was on sale for $200.

Vor 17 Tage
h k
h k

Uu it has rgb cpu

Vor 18 Tage
KannX
KannX

I bought 9600K last week. It wasn't great. I returned it. And then I bought 9700K. It's awesome.

Vor 18 Tage
NickBroccoli
NickBroccoli

About to do the same thing man. 9600k just isn't smooth in newer games at all

Vor 6 Tage
D P
D P

I am really happy with my i7 8700k. The last best i7 that Intel might have made.....

Vor 18 Tage
John L
John L

going to add the 700th comment saying: ''where is the i7-9700k?'' because i was looking for it too.

Vor 18 Tage
chrcoluk
chrcoluk

interesting that the 8 threaded 4790k didnt have the issue in the graph,, do 2 more threads really make that difference? seems a bit odd, maybe there is something about HTT/SMT that far cry 5 really likes so even a 3/6 cpu wouldnt have the issue with same threead count as a 6/6.

Vor 18 Tage
Bloodpact Guild
Bloodpact Guild

Star Citizen has multiple second stutters/ softlocks with 6 threads in the heaviest-load city (Lorville)

Vor 18 Tage
hiczok
hiczok

I just need a new motherboard for 2500k

Vor 18 Tage
Sebastiaan de Kooter
Sebastiaan de Kooter

I'm not very happy with the result>conclusion path taken here. When I look at the data presented at far cry I see almost 300% negative delta between the 9600K stock and the overclocked results. This tells me that there is an issue with your overclock. That also means at that point it would not be wise to use that data to argue about the necessity of 8 threads. If you want to do the latter simply take the 8700K run the test, disable HT in the bios, run the test again. That is the only way to avoid the most obvious pitfalls and confirmation bias. (Because who knows, there is an issue in the uefi, game, whatever). Personally I have an 8700K and I doubt HT will create a significant difference, especially on a stable 5 Ghz. However would still be interested to have this 'educated' hunch confirmed.

Vor 18 Tage
CluelessGmer
CluelessGmer

happy to see that my i7 4790k still doing fine

Vor 19 Tage
Another User
Another User

Are the new gen AMD and Intel, cpu's - still Malware (meltdown..etc) impacted?

Vor 19 Tage
MrQmicic
MrQmicic

Whoever designed these Gygabyte cards should be fired. Probably ugliest design I've seen in a long time.

Vor 19 Tage
OminousVoice
OminousVoice

@8:48 you say 'spurious', surely you mean 'sporadic'? ;) On topic though, I'm very conscious of value right now as I'm putting together a new rig. I'm currently pretty much set on an R7 2700x, however I'm still curious as to 8th/9th gen i5's price/performance ratio, especially as Intel doggedly refuses to discount their older stuff.

Vor 19 Tage
RavenousJoe
RavenousJoe

What I really wanted to know was, does the STIM actually help temps at stock speed in comparison to the 8600k. In Canada the 8600k is a bit cheaper, but if temps are higher at stock, I would rather pay a bit extra for a cooler chip that I can OC higher when I need the performance.

Vor 19 Tage
kumbandit
kumbandit

You should have monitored how many threads go under load during the games. I'm almost certain that FC5 is the only one that utilizes as many as you throw at it... And with that in mind, AMD is far, far more future proof because the era of single core performance importance is coming to an end seriously soon...

Vor 19 Tage
FlawlessFlaw07
FlawlessFlaw07

Would running G-sync or Freesync help alleviate some of these spikes for the 9600k?

Vor 19 Tage
TacoMeat FijiWater
TacoMeat FijiWater

my 4670k is sobbing in despair ;(((

Vor 19 Tage
TacoMeat FijiWater
TacoMeat FijiWater

megapro125 yeah, im waiting for either 10nm intel or when DDR5 is released.

Vor 18 Tage
megapro125
megapro125

Same CPU here. I will replace it with either a Ryzen 2 or intel 10nm processor (which hopefully both release somewhere next year) whichever has better gaming performance ≤350€

Vor 19 Tage
pengwaffe
pengwaffe

my i5 4690 has disgusting frame times in modern games that demand more CPU power, specifically ubisoft. I'll be making the jump to the 2700 for that sweet value and zen 2 compatibility

Vor 19 Tage
Percy Jakson
Percy Jakson

I died reading the translated subtitles.

Vor 19 Tage
SentiBM
SentiBM

Just buy an R5 2600 and use the saved money for a better GPU or monitor

Vor 19 Tage
d1rcwill
d1rcwill

The popin in that Far Cry capture is dreadful. What's going on there?

Vor 19 Tage
JD DeBaun
JD DeBaun

sorry to add this to a post with nothing to do with it's content. new to channel but you had 1 line that sold me for life. I am doing 3d rendering for 3d printing -slic3r Prusa. I usually know what I am talking about but I can't seem to locate an answer. I render for a long time and it bothers me (biting lip). I don't know how to improve it for I don't know who is to blame. I recently upgraded from a gtx 970 to p2000. While the ability to move an object in fusion 360 went up a ton. The rendering time only slightly improved. I am running formula v, RipjawX F3-2133C9D-16GXH x4, fx-8350, hx750. I don't know if I just need to tweek it a bit with settings, buy a new GPU or start from scratch from the power supply. I know if I pour money into a black hole out will pop a solution but I get by on VA disability(they suck). My aim is to rig that renders not in fraction(s) of day to maybe an hour or so. I am trying to start/started a 3D design and printing business so an investment is ok, no black holes.

Vor 20 Tage
Yu Jay
Yu Jay

I'm using a 4770k OC to 4.2.. Gotta be better than my retro CPU.. D:

Vor 20 Tage
Mario Pavlakovic
Mario Pavlakovic

@Steve, great video, excellent points made about both CPUs, totally objective and backed up with real data. GG

Vor 20 Tage
mjc0961
mjc0961

Loving all the frame time graphs lately 👍

Vor 20 Tage
David Ryger
David Ryger

In Czech republice 9700k is actually cheaper then 8700k.

Vor 20 Tage
mjc0961
mjc0961

I'd rather have the CPU fidget spinner.

Vor 20 Tage
Comanglia
Comanglia

Would love to see a frame time plot for games that are mostly about frequency/IPC i.e. Counter Strike Global Offensive. CSGO is almost entirely CPU bound if you have any mid-range discrete GPU from basically the last 8 years when playing 1080p. Being a major eSport having super high fps with minimal variation is vital for 240Hz users. Fun fact to go along with CPU frequency mattering so much in CSGO RAM timings such as CAS Latency matters more than Frequency/Bandwidth (most of the time) DDR4 3200MHz CL14 > DDR4 4000MHz CL19 Source Engine by Valve, a significant reason why the i5 is still and will continue to be relevant. Real talk though, screw the i9. The i7 AND i5 should both have hyper threading at this point. Really should be i7 8c/16t, i5 6c/12t, i3 4c/8t, pentium 4c/4t. Intel would secure a lot of the higher end market share when comparing price points to performance vs AMD. (keep in mind I consider i5 and i7 high-end cpus, especially if you're going for overclocking)

Vor 20 Tage
Eldo Eldon
Eldo Eldon

So...dont overclock Ryzen 2600 because it is worth

Vor 20 Tage
Eldo Eldon
Eldo Eldon

Buy i7 8700k and get over with it!

Vor 20 Tage
Aquilam
Aquilam

Why not review the 9600K to it's closest AMD price competitor, the 2700X...? (Yes, you've already reviewed it but it seems like a poor choice to include them in the same video)...questionable comparisons by pretending the part doesn't exist.

Vor 20 Tage
Carver6661313
Carver6661313

i came here to try to find out the temp difference between 8600k and 9600k but there was no mention of it at all also, was the game footage suppose to show the frame rate dropping? because i didn't see anything and i'd rather see video of the spikes rather than a line on a chart and the insistence that "it's noticeable"

Vor 20 Tage
matt buddy [MattBuddy NSF]
matt buddy [MattBuddy NSF]

the intel fangirl train is real here.........

Vor 20 Tage
César Acosta
César Acosta

Wow, the OC 2700 looks terribly bad compared to the 9900K. I mean, having on average 50 FPS more than the highest end Ryzen processor is simply astonishing (talking specifically about Farcry 5).

Vor 20 Tage
G GG
G GG

R7 1700 scores look a good all-rounder,given they hover at $150-160 atm.

Vor 20 Tage
Marco Rossetton
Marco Rossetton

wtf did you do to that cpu in the intro lol

Vor 20 Tage
Setheus
Setheus

So I have £500 to spend on new mobo, cpu and ram (I have the other bits) does anyone have any suggestions and is this enough money? I use the PC for gaming

Vor 20 Tage
Fll3nAngel
Fll3nAngel

Finland: 2700 299€, 2700X 335€, 8700k 429€, 9900k 599€ 1€ = 1,13$ let's just say I am glad I bought a 2700X instead of waiting for the 9900k... 20% increase in perf at max, with nearly double the price... no thanks!

Vor 20 Tage
MrBarni
MrBarni

That I5 9600k in my country is 300$ and R5 1600 is 100$

Vor 20 Tage
saultube44
saultube44

Tech Jesus could you please make the news less wordy? more succinct would be better, shorter video, same content not so much double explanations,and other words that could be saved, comments and opinions are good but very wordy explanations are boring and you think so because I notice it in your voice when you get bored for so long explanations, if videos could be 10 mins instead of the usual 20 would be a time saver, right now 20 mins is a good part of an hour I need to save for doing lots of things in my free time left, and is painful to not getting the info more condensed

Vor 20 Tage
Serban
Serban

So happy I just bought a 9600k for 240 euros on sale here in europe to upgrade my old ddr3 platform (i7 4790 non k) which was bottlenecking me in every game.

Vor 20 Tage
DalTron
DalTron

If Ryzen can get higher frames at 1080p and higher clock speeds I'll consider Ryzen for my next build. I bought a Z370 and Intel is still far enough ahead that I don't need to switch

Vor 20 Tage
AtheismF7W
AtheismF7W

Got this bad boy for $310 CAD :D

Vor 20 Tage
ash0787
ash0787

why is is lagging if its a 6 core cpu ? hyperthreading only adds like 15% performance.

Vor 20 Tage
KingCobra
KingCobra

Was excited when I saw the title of this video, then disappointed when I saw it didn't include the i7-9700k :( Why was it left out?

Vor 20 Tage
Mopantsu
Mopantsu

Nah screw Intel. The gaming performance is about all they have now and that's up for debate as to whether it's worth it. Especially with their current pricing. Unless Intel pulls a rabbit out of a hat, Zen 2 is going to tear Intel a new asshole.

Vor 20 Tage
Anthony Farrell
Anthony Farrell

I am surprised that when reviewing 'mid-range' CPU's that people who are perhaps budget-conscious might want to buy, you don't mention future-proofing. Right now Intel CPUs are better for pure gaming builds thanks to their higher clocks, and AMDs are better for basically everything else due their much higher core count and thus throughput. Yet...the AMDs will be more future-proof as they will be able to make use of more cores for future games as and when they are introduced (regardless of when that is), whereas many Intel CPUs are are already thread-bottlenecked or use pretty-much all their current cores. It just seems odd that when focusing on 'budget' how the chip will progress into future workloads isn't considered, since people who are budget-conscious will probably want to make their current budget go not only further, but for longer too.

Vor 20 Tage
Felix Schweighart
Felix Schweighart

Hey whats about the i7 9700k ? Is it worth paying 200+ more for the I7 compared to the I5????

Vor 20 Tage
Guido Gennari
Guido Gennari

Dear Steve: please, do tests on e-sports games as well. I don't see anybody playing assasins creed looking for ass good frame-times.

Vor 20 Tage
John van de Ven
John van de Ven

It has been previously shown that the difference between an i9 9900k and the r7 2700x is in the 10% to 12% range in favour of Intel. The performance differences you are showing here between these two cpu's is 25% or greater. Jimmy from AdoredTV has conclusively proved that the main reason for such large disparity between these two cpu's is the Nvidia driver. Conclusive evidence. I have no doubt that you are using an Nvidia card. Try running the same tests using an rx590 in crossfire or Vega 56/64. I would be interested in that outcome and I am guessing the results will be extremely close. AMD have a better DX11 and DX12 driver implementation. I cannot trust your results as I believe they do not represent the true difference between these cpu's in gaming when compared to each other. If the new 7nm Ryzen has a 15% gain in ipc, even they will still be 15% slower in fps than Intel. Intel do not have an architecture advantage as this has also been proved by other testers. Steve, you need to start testing all cpu's using Radeon cards only. Nvidia do not play truthfully. BTW, all my pc's run Intel and Nvidia. I have no bias toward AMD so it is clear that your testing is flawed, not deliberately, but flawed nevertheless.

Vor 20 Tage
Chad D'Boy
Chad D'Boy

ive been watching Linus for years... but after like 2 months ago... i clicked on this channel... and yesterday i relized you have 4k60 video.... luv u GN

Vor 20 Tage
Hassaanrulz
Hassaanrulz

makes me pretty happy that i was able to snag the 9600k for $150

Vor 21 Tag
facelessninetytwo
facelessninetytwo

In my country R5 2600 is just $15 more than i3 8100. i5 8400 is way more expensive, lol. Who in the sane mind would really buy quad-core i3???

Vor 21 Tag
Danny Howell
Danny Howell

Is the i7 8700k and asus strix 580 oc edition a good pair?

Vor 21 Tag
vaghatz
vaghatz

what about the i7-9700k?

Vor 21 Tag
Octanius Blue
Octanius Blue

Please test how bad hot glue as a thermalpaste is xD

Vor 21 Tag
Shane Ottinger
Shane Ottinger

I kinda wish there was something that could be done with the rma side of dealing with the manufactures. I have been having a bad time trying to rma my 8600k it seems like it is a manual process over there at intel. I started the rma at the same time as I did for asus and I have the motherboard back already and have all arrows pointing to a failed cpu. From time to time yeah cpus fail however it seems like more often then not its been intel chips that have failed, and it hasnt been due to ocing either. Just a bit odd.

Vor 21 Tag
Fuddy Duddy
Fuddy Duddy

Why test these games at medium? It makes the clockspeed more of a factor given the fact you become drawcall limited.

Vor 21 Tag
Daniel Ladishew
Daniel Ladishew

My i5 8600K clocked @5.1 Ghz on 1.35v that I picked up from Microcenter for $220 is the BEST value CPU i've ever purchased.

Vor 21 Tag
Evangel
Evangel

Those "junky" CL 16-18-18.. DDR4 are bottoming Ryzen Gaming Performance, a tweaked b-die on a PBO Pimped Ryzen 2700X/2600X will give way better Min FPS/0.1%.

Vor 21 Tag
SovietGrazz
SovietGrazz

Not that I would ever question your integrity Steve, of all youtubers, but I was surprised to see a GPU sponsorship for your channel. I understand of course it isn't displayed on a GPU review video, but nevertheless it's the same thing that would, on other channels, be called out as a potential source of bias (and rightly so)... And so it made me feel a bit uncomfortable seeing it here ... PS: 9700K Review please. 8c vs 6c12t should invoke an even closer look at that frametime question. Does HTing help cure these frame time spikes?

Vor 21 Tag
N. I.
N. I.

8086K is still the best all-around CPU out, esp if you OC and doubly so if you use air cooling.

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Alfa Romeo Volante
Alfa Romeo Volante

Very poor image, sorry to say. You could have spend 5 minutes to clean the poor CPU, but it all looks dirty, the overall image is that of a dirty fat long haired hobo doing tech reviews, if you get my drift.

Vor 21 Tag
Hector Domino
Hector Domino

A 6 Core/6 Thread CPU (i5-8600k) OUTPERFORMED a 18 Core/36 Thread CPU (i9-7989XE)???!!! What the hell!!!

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