HW News - 10nm 'Death,' 9900K Availability, Vega 20, & RX 590


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    Intel denies the death of the 10nm process, spurred by media discussion earlier in the week, and AMD seeks to launch an RX 590 and Vega 20.
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    Hardware news this week is split between AMD and Intel coverage, with plenty of items from each camp. For AMD's part, we've got rumors on the RX 590 and Vega 20, with actual news on new EPYC customers and earnings drops from the crypto crash. For Intel, there's a denial of the death of 10nm and prolonged 9900K delays. Other news items include a move by Samsung to introduce EUV (Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography) for 7nm LPP production, Motorola's partnership with iFixit, and Ryan Shrout's departure from PC Per for Intel.
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Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus

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Red Team Gaming
Red Team Gaming

Hey man Im the guy you met the other day by Panera bread. The delivery driver.

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Southeastern777
Southeastern777

Gamers Nexus..."The ranks are thinning"? We still have the rest of the 'misfits' at PC Per...And you, keep reporting yer arse off! ->Good work, Steve; good job.

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colesdav
colesdav

Any chance you could look at doing a similar R9 Fury X Power Mod? It would be interesting to see if Buildzoid can overclock R9 FuryX HBM using similar technique and / or mod power limit and see how close it comes to RX Vega 56/64 reference card or AIB card. Have you seen this article: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-graphics-cards-dying/ Do you know if there is any truth in it? Will Tom's Hardware be running a "Just bin it" article to discuss this? I was waiting until black friday and going to buy an RTX2080 since nothing from AMD to compete. Now it looks like a GTX1080Ti would be a better bet if the above RTX2080/Ti problems have some basis. I don't know.

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whiteburr
whiteburr

You're next Steve!

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KingKracker
KingKracker

And please every body stop buying apple products! Talk about some money hungery fuktards. They make it so hardly no one can fix their own gear, and if u take ur apple products to get fixed by a apple pro, they will charge u a min of 500$ MINIMAL 500$ even if it actually a 10$ fix, still charge 500$ u guys look this shit up. Horible. And the macbook pro is horribly built. Over heats and thermal throttles the cpu. Mac books are built for looks, ya high speced but if there is no cooling that dont mean shit! Look this shit up guys. Fuck apple. They can just go away for all i care.

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KingKracker
KingKracker

No pne is talking about what intel did with the 9th gens, i mean that i5 is actualy an i3, i7 is actauly i5 an yhe i9 is an i7. I thought that was kinda messed up. They are tryin to trick pc noobs. Thinking there getting a mid range cpu with the i5 but they r getting the lowest cpu in the fam. Intel and nvidia the to get checked, im not a amd fan boy, but ever1 and their mom need to buy ALL AMD and intel and nvidia will stop tryin to consistently fuck us over.

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Anthony Smith
Anthony Smith

Gigaparts has them in stock :p

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Vercusgames
Vercusgames

Just cut a 20nm in half. /wink

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naftali DG
naftali DG

i5 9600k is available but you can't find reviews for that cpu... why?

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Jesse N
Jesse N

Predict Intel will get 10nm working sometime between the heat death of the universe and never.

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Jorge Vespucci
Jorge Vespucci

So your logo is just a ripoff of the screw attack symbol?

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pensive69
pensive69

have to agree you have achieved the mountain top.GN rocks and you are entertaining and helpful.viewing now.

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Bbb Mmm
Bbb Mmm

Rather than watch you read the document. Why don't you just publish the document and will read it. Not everything needs to be a video.

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Noshi
Noshi

Motorola is making a huge stride in their popularity by supporting RTR. If I were a phone manufacturer I would be doing the same. Makes it look like your pro consumer in a big way.

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AmpEdition
AmpEdition

Just make recycling mandatory when you buy a new phone, trade you’re phone in or show proof that you sold it to a recycling center! Or receipt you sold it

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Damien
Damien

higher clocks OwO we already are hitting 5ghz +- on 6 core i7s how much more can going 10nm++ really squeeze out will be interesting to see

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HauntedLolita
HauntedLolita

I have a 8700K, I don't care about brands or anything biased, I just want someone to offer me a CPU upgrade that will offer boosted performance in VRChat. That's my primary use case and how I spend %90 of my free time.

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Andrew Hunt
Andrew Hunt

Headphone jack? That's crazy talk.

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Simon Fröhlich
Simon Fröhlich

20:30 You're next! Wondering where Steve goes if he leaves

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drifting1O1
drifting1O1

why would AMD make anther product with thee Vega 20 name? VagaM 20 is already a thing

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Chase Rayfield
Chase Rayfield

Right to repair does nothing for people that want the right to tinker... if you can break DRM to fix your phone, you should be allowed to break DRM to improve it outright as well.

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John Connor
John Connor

Steve leaving Gamer's Nexus for Lancome Paris, upcoming.

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John Connor
John Connor

Super stoked and excited for Zen 2. AMD already saved us from the Intel quad core monopoly, I'm loving them already!

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Azraei Halim
Azraei Halim

Vega 20 already launch as latest Vega Mobile called Vega 20 because have 20 CU

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Uriel Rodrigo
Uriel Rodrigo

Wait for Rx 590 or buy Rx Vega 64 ? HELP

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Tech Trucker
Tech Trucker

Intel has been shipping EUV equipment to Fab 28 in Israel for a couple months now.

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Stephane Cheff
Stephane Cheff

So ... I pre ordered a i7 9700k at 395 but they did not received it ! They have a i9-9900k at 480 ! They keep it for me till i answer ! SHould i get the i9 9900k i have a H80 corsair cooler and temps are scraing me and dont want to put in another 100 for a cooler !!! HELP ! :D

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Keybraker
Keybraker

Yes but iPhones last like 8 years

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fatarsemonkey
fatarsemonkey

You know if the 590 can knock off a 1070 and the 2080 Ti' rumors of death cards is true AMD may have the perfect hold over card while we wait a year or two for RT to sort itself out.

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PCS Entertainment
PCS Entertainment

I really like your overlay on the left side :)

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Zephyrian
Zephyrian

been trying to get my hands on a Xbox one S motherboard for 8 months to do a repair... at this point i wanna just recycle it... but it sucks cause i know how to do the change over, but there is not market for getting parts :/ but iFix it now has it on their site for 130$ and i cant wait to pick one up and get it all repaired and playing games, got the Xbox One S off a friend whos daughter broke it for free, so i got a xbox one s for 130$ and some work... not the biggest deal but it is better than a land fill.

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GodFear17
GodFear17

You guys know Intel 10nm, is actual 7nm right? Intel 14nm is 10nm actual. Just a good tidbit to know

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Claudiu Grigore
Claudiu Grigore

VERI IMPORTATN !!! BRAVO MOTOROLA YEAAA . MODULAR COMPONET IN PHONE REMEMBAR SONY ERICSONE W800 I . THA PERFEC EXAPMELS .

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Nidhal25
Nidhal25

Delta T over ambient of that t-shirt?

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Lee R
Lee R

Dumb shits buying the 9900K. Intel could sell a pile of dog shit and say it has a 6GHz clock speed, no HT, price it at $750 and idiots would still buy it. People need saving from themselves. I refuse to believe everyone requires AVX and that this is a case of people buying nonsensical things because *I'm wealthy and I buy dumb shit because I got the money to do so*.

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Stephen McGregor
Stephen McGregor

Can someone provide a link for the Samsung EUV stuff referenced in this video? TIA

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FlamingTP
FlamingTP

still waiting on my 9900k

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Anodyne Melody
Anodyne Melody

Thanks so much for the graphical topic timer with the loading bar animation! Keep on being the best source of PC hardware news on YouTube! :)

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Chibling
Chibling

Good on you for the environmental points. I appreciate your mind.

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Дмитрий Нагиев
Дмитрий Нагиев

4:03 ROFL

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Jesse
Jesse

Holy shit. Where have you been all my life? I'll never understand why i get so many recommendations for trap music and fail videos instead of quality channels like this...... Oh well, I'm here now. Thanks!

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FifthGear
FifthGear

PC Perspective has been my favourite tech channel to go to for reviews due to to how professional and thorough they are with their research and testing. Them and GN of course. PC Per have been part of the youtube pc scene since the beginning but still didn't gain that much subscribers probably due to their format. Sad to see Ryan Shrout go, but PC Perspective is in good hands.

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Thijs Janssen
Thijs Janssen

Won't vega 20 be a igpu?

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ChaotiX
ChaotiX

It's actually the 8th generation CPU's. Intels 5XXX series was for low wattage laptop processors, remember?

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DMX Lasxhxdivids
DMX Lasxhxdivids

I do think 10nm development is definitely going to be on the backburner for Intel. Since they're struggling so much on the 9900K and 9700K, I don't think they're prioritizing further R&D until they get their manufacturing shit straight.

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Gordon Freeman
Gordon Freeman

Moto right to repair is chinese pushing 2 rip u off long run.

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Alex Lion
Alex Lion

The best option is left standing.

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wotever99ninynine Hamilton
wotever99ninynine Hamilton

i like the timeline thing, thats cool. and useful

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Sascha Montero
Sascha Montero

Very good info guys, strong supporter of your channel keep going

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Mark G
Mark G

Any chance of getting this looked into? http://egpu.io/forums/builds/thunderbolt-3-on-amd-x399-threadripper-rtx-208032gbps-tb3-razer-core-x-win10-1803-theitsage/ Seems like Thunderbolt 3 might be working on some X399 boards with the release of the new GC Titan Ridge PCIe Card- could this mean that Intel is going to open up TBC3 for threadripper/ryzen?

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Bastion Technology
Bastion Technology

There is no reason to pick 9900K when you purchase a better HEDT processor for similar price since 9700K/2700X far better at gaming.

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ArJuna22
ArJuna22

The 9th gen Intel CPU's are not even slightly interesting to me. I have been building a new PC using the latest greatest technology since 1989 and doing so usually every two to three years. I am still running PC's I built in 2010, 2013, and 2014 and the latest crop of 9th gen CPU's are not even competitive with my Haswell i7-4790K I built almost 5 years ago. Single thread benchmarks on my old chip are better than or equal to all the latest CPU's . For gaming my 5 year old build with a GTX-1080ti SC2 GPU is at least on par with anything you can get now. At best I could spend $2500 to gain about 10% performance. WTH is going on at Intel, where I once worked BTW.

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The Panda Gangster
The Panda Gangster

Mate, your videos are too long

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Ceadderman
Ceadderman

Yaaaaay Motorola! Hopefully they come up with something newer and better than RAZR.

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Michael Southcott
Michael Southcott

The new EUV lithograpy manufacturing process by Samsung could be revolutionary especially if it leads to a 3nm process.

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Flyinghotpocket
Flyinghotpocket

yeah motorola! Bring back radio shack! (in the olden days you used radio shack to maintain your old tv's and vcr's n shit, Pick up a quick resistor) right to repair. no more waste! Planned obsolesce can suck it.

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Jeffrey Photonboy
Jeffrey Photonboy

15% ZEN2/3000 comment: I believe that will be only SPECIFIC situations that gain a 15% uptick at the same CPU frequency. Certainly some CACHE optimizations, possible CCX latency improvements etc but 15% uptick is massive and if you look at the difference between Zen1 and Zen+ along with some basic understanding of CPU architecture it seems IMPOSSIBLE to get a 15% uptick across the board. The low hanging fruit is mostly gone.... probably the dynamic optimization of frequency/voltage will improve again like it did with Zen+ so that a higher FREQUENCY can be maintained for better out-of-box performance but again I don't think it's a 15% IPC improvement (I prefer to say FREQUENCY not IPC as it's not the same thing unless the architecture is identical).

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Bain Malum
Bain Malum

The cat is at the upper right corner. Almost missed it.

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Ghalvz
Ghalvz

I thought the 590 was only supposed to be around 10-15% faster than the 580, but that is not even near a 1070 let alone a 1070 TI. Looking forward to seeing tests from others to see where it actually lines up.

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gas-powered-crusader
gas-powered-crusader

Just give me the AMD news, thanks.

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Globespy
Globespy

Seems like no matter where you look, manufacturers are trying to rape customers by purposely limiting supply to raise prices. Maybe the end of the world is coming and they are milking the last few dollars before heading off to Mars :)

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isaid murillo
isaid murillo

don't have anything to say about the caravan imigrantes coming in way

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kluger kerl
kluger kerl

Pls cut ur hair looks gross

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onderzone records
onderzone records

nice time stamp

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Kevin Tee
Kevin Tee

Way to roast Linus!

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David
David

Tech Jesus, please don't leave us for NZXT as the Chief Puck Strategist

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JaysonSR
JaysonSR

Motorola used to be on my "Do Not Buy" list due to my old Droid RAZR having its battery sealed in with a non-removable cover, glue, and screws. However, thanks to them offering support to start fixing stuff, I'll certainly have to reconsider my stance on them. Heck, I was starting to consider dumping smartphones altogether due to their high cost and relatively crappy quality.

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TheLoucM
TheLoucM

Is Steve sleeping? or is it me ? 590 Graphics score is 4759 and this is far from a 1070... This would align the stock 590 to be equivalent to an oc 580. 100th score for 1070ti scores 7845 and 100th score for a 580 is 4665. (I take the 100th score to eliminate ridiculously overclocked gpu, of course there can be variance but the point still stand)

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POINT BLANK
POINT BLANK

SPEAK SLOW!

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Ajn Subb
Ajn Subb

Why would intel go 10 nm when Zen is going 7nm?

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Jordan Reed
Jordan Reed

The Tech Jesus' hair is always on point and delivers us the good word in the Tech world!

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Alex MCore
Alex MCore

11:08 it's only 50M not 500M short of estimation. They have expected minus 50M, got a minus 100M because of extra inventory.

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James Swords
James Swords

Just 2 days later and I get the email from AMD introducing Vega 20...

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DARREN 123
DARREN 123

Intel will lose more ground next year , http://youtu.be/K4xctJOa6bQ

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Michael Rosol
Michael Rosol

10 nm is not dying any time soon

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Youri Khan
Youri Khan

Interesting, my next phone may be a Motorola

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movax20h
movax20h

This 66af:c1 is most likely fake. PCI vendor id 66af is not registered to AMD, or to any other company, nor it is in private reserved PCI id space, so it is unlikely to be even an engineering sample. Most AMD devices are 1002 and 1022.

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DefiantAML
DefiantAML

When 7nm is just around the corner, why does intels 10nm even matter at this point?

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saultube44
saultube44

Buy Motorola just for the ethical move for the , I would but not available in Bolivia

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Anas Siddiqui
Anas Siddiqui

9900k worth it for casual streaming?

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Om Pathak
Om Pathak

Blah blah blah...

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Aakash Sahani
Aakash Sahani

Yaaaaasssss!! i5 9600x is more expensive than Ryzen 7 2700x in India.

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Bob Sacamento
Bob Sacamento

ryan has always been biased towards intel..no surprise he is moving there officially now

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MrJizzy181
MrJizzy181

Game Jesus has spoken! Now back to Gun Jesus.

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Lars Gottlieb
Lars Gottlieb

Motorola being the first manufacturer to support repairs is rather ironic, as they were the first to introduce a chip in their early android phones that would brick the phone if rooted ..

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Daniel Tien
Daniel Tien

In 2020, Steve leaves GN to work for Old Spice's hair products division after a brief stint replacing Linus at LTT. The tech analysis industry is much poorer for it.

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MrTurboTash
MrTurboTash

Just a few seconds in "Samsung has got some EUV based 7nm chips" is that the same 7nm on AMDs roadmap?... AND THE CHIP-WARS ARE BACK!!! *celebrates*

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neoxide h
neoxide h

Uk gets fucked yet again £600 is the normal price for 9900k most places that have stock are asking £850 same goes with all pc hardware, so much wasted money building a pc here

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You are obscure
You are obscure

A polaris refresh cannot hit 1070 level performance

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Thommeees
Thommeees

in germany, an 9900k is about 700€ if its available, i can get the Threadripper 2920x for 670€ in preorder

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magzire
magzire

This guy looks likes Charles Trippy stoner brother

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PlayerN
PlayerN

I mean makes sense the 9600k is in stock. From specs I've seen, it's pretty much the same as the 8600k but clocked a little higher

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daLiraX
daLiraX

580$ for a cpu? Ordering an X model or what? In all seriousness, that's nearly double as much as i7 K versions did cost.

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Max Facts
Max Facts

Intel Ice Lake 10nm+ CPU Benchmark Leak Shows More Cache, Higher Performance Despite all the drama, there are 10nm Intel Core processors already making the rounds, including the Cannon Lake based Core i3-8121U, which has its integrated GPU disabled. Now, we're getting a quick and dirty look at an alleged Ice Lake processor, which is built on the 10nm+ node. The alleged Ice Lake processor popped up in Geekbench early this morning with the designation "Intel Corporation Ice Lake Client Platform". The unnamed processor is a dual-core part with HyperThreading enabled; it has a base frequency of 2.6GHz and 4MB of L3 cache. The processor managed to pull in a single-core score of 4151 and a multi-core score of 7945. We usually take such early figures with a grain of salt, but they do at least seem to be genuine from what we can tell -- in addition, our source that pointed us to these results has an impeccable record.

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Mr. Testosterone
Mr. Testosterone

Hey Ladyboy. When you gonna start buying bras?

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DanielRichards644
DanielRichards644

9th Gen CPU's are overpriced at normal prices

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JayJapanB
JayJapanB

I think when my current phone dies (Still going strong for 5 years+) I'll buy into Motorolla. Less disposable phones the better.

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Raccar
Raccar

It's RX 590 and RX 595x, calling it.

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Kevin Cobley
Kevin Cobley

Replaceable batteries should be mandatory with old batteries bought back for recycling. Phone/tablet manufacturers should be compelled to develop a common battery standard with maybe 10 different sized standard batteries, phone makers not allowed to manufacture phone batteries.

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Hef Williams
Hef Williams

If anyone wants an i9-9900k (OEM) and is willing to pay, Overclocker UK have them in stock with worldwide shipping, http://www.overclockers.co.uk/intel-core-i9-9900k-3.6ghz-coffee-lake-socket-lga1151-processor-oem-cp-65k-in.html

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Alex Crouse
Alex Crouse

Thumbs up for the Linus dis.

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Andreas Ojdanic
Andreas Ojdanic

Intel is a mess, I supported AMD this time around until Intel release new architecture.

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Dom Trussardi
Dom Trussardi

Apparently, 1nm transistors are possible, but that's a long ways off in cpus and mass production. They will be lucky to crack 7 or 8 with current methods.

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