DATALAND RX 580 2048 Tear-Down & Disassembly


Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus

Original review of the DATALAND RX 580 2048: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Xm2V8O5po

Vor 19 Tage
XkStreamWorks
XkStreamWorks

Hey , can you try and put the rx 580 bios? Try the nitro + one with 4g of vram. Lower the clocks and put the 50% power target . Maybe that's a 575 with a 580 chip :).

Vor 18 Tage
Matt Christie
Matt Christie

+Darth Scrub You are most welcome.

Vor 18 Tage
Darth Scrub
Darth Scrub

+Matt Christie Thank you

Vor 18 Tage
Matt Christie
Matt Christie

+Darth Scrub Just look up "I-Fix It". They make a variety of different kits.

Vor 18 Tage
Darth Scrub
Darth Scrub

Hey, you forgot to put the kit you used to take it apart in the description. I am semi-interested.

Vor 18 Tage
aceous99
aceous99

Chinese tricking Chinese..

Vor 7 Tage
Abimael Lopez
Abimael Lopez

AMD should release this in the west by calling it the RX475 or RX470 Platinum.

Vor 15 Tage
Roy Parrish
Roy Parrish

Quick question: Are you standing on an ESD Grounded Floor Mat with Foot Straps on each foot? I'm assuming that the tear down mat is also grounded.

Vor 16 Tage
Insulus
Insulus

you said the cooling fins and back plate looked like aluminum, the camera does not really let me tell, but it looks like more of a nickle finish and the rails that popped out had an aluminum finish. non-alloy aluminum is likely to start bonding with itself at those temperatures over extended periods of time. ic memory chips having been epoxied is normally done for stress (impact, heat) or moisture barriers. an educated guess would be fan vibration and long term heat stress dampening concerns.

Vor 16 Tage
jordan santos
jordan santos

Não sei pra que chamar de 580, antes colocar o nome verdadeiro mesmo e pronto!...

Vor 16 Tage
JosieCat
JosieCat

It's a 570 calling itself a 580? That's disgusting

Vor 16 Tage
Matthew Smith
Matthew Smith

Whats the model code on the plate outside of die it would be something like, 215-0910052

Vor 17 Tage
bobekfpj
bobekfpj

I dont get why you blaming AMD for this, isn't this just the company that made this card? It is the same with other board partners, they get the design and specification and build their own version of the card - I dont think AMD has anything to do with it?

Vor 17 Tage
Dub Monster
Dub Monster

It's Powercolor

Vor 17 Tage
chris hamilton
chris hamilton

what is a good site to test your temperatures? I have an ibuypower machine and I understand how to get into the bios at startup of pc but I would like to know what my temps are when a game is running

Vor 17 Tage
iamkitkatbar
iamkitkatbar

Can it crossfire

Vor 17 Tage
Clint Evartt
Clint Evartt

Probably shouldn't let a GPU brand sponsor the review of a competitor GPU. It sends a bad message.

Vor 18 Tage
DrathVader
DrathVader

5:05 my RX 480 4GB has 8 modules. Never seen a Polaris GPU with only 4 RAM modules.

Vor 18 Tage
The Hardcorps
The Hardcorps

Id say 570x

Vor 18 Tage
Joonas
Joonas

working card... no issues there...

Vor 18 Tage
Georg F
Georg F

This black glossy stuff is called underfill. You use it to keep stuff in place. Why they would only use it on some of many same components is beyond me though.

Vor 18 Tage
Jon P Ybanez
Jon P Ybanez

let's put this cooling solution on the FatBoy

Vor 18 Tage
Armed ASMR
Armed ASMR

Thanks for this! I’m learning a ton

Vor 18 Tage
SIC66SIC66
SIC66SIC66

That PCB looks really warped.

Vor 18 Tage
American English for Arabs
American English for Arabs

i always enjoy your videos man. tech Jesus! haha been here forever it seems. i hope you don't mind my earlier comment in Arabic inviting people to my English Learning channel. much love.

Vor 18 Tage
Sam Gayney
Sam Gayney

They did this with the RX 560 too, one has 1024 stream processors while another variant had 864 or something

Vor 18 Tage
JACK haha
JACK haha

There were also castrated versions of rx470D in China before, which was also sold to China only. AMD also has more old models with castrated versions, but the difference is that the 470d only has 1792 stream processors

Vor 17 Tage
JACK haha
JACK haha

They call it 560D

Vor 17 Tage
boothegoo pc
boothegoo pc

You know when GN has nothing better to review when a card only on sale in China gets 2 video's.

Vor 18 Tage
saultube44
saultube44

Isn't Dataland lying? they make the card and name it don't they? what AMD has to do with the naming?

Vor 18 Tage
carbonsx
carbonsx

Didn't you note in your RTX failure investigation video that the memory modules on the bottom and adjacent to the VRM were the hottest? Perhaps the additional support is a compensation for the expansion from the larger thermal cycles? Similar to the actual GPU corner support. Edit: Didn't see the other comments with the same thoughts... so um... ditto?

Vor 18 Tage
g1 gaming
g1 gaming

wow never seen this brand

Vor 18 Tage
Cid Sapient
Cid Sapient

seriously tho amd just make a damn vega with gddr6 and call it a fkn day with those 2 things u could easily have cards that could compete with the 1070 and 1080 in price and performance stop refreshing polaris lol im tired of running a 1070ti on my FREESYNC monitor cuz i dont wanna spend $500 on a powercolor vega or $600 on a sapphire

Vor 18 Tage
Tiger White
Tiger White

that's a card I would mount sideways

Vor 18 Tage
Tiger White
Tiger White

that looks cool as hell

Vor 18 Tage
Tajl3r
Tajl3r

hey look it's gpu and cooler like every other milking

Vor 18 Tage
JCS
JCS

so how do you replace the fans?

Vor 18 Tage
Matze Strawberrymaker
Matze Strawberrymaker

Probably underfill on the ram modules for added mechanical stability. Not sure why exactly it's needed but they probably noticed that these two modules give up fast

Vor 18 Tage
Gastro
Gastro

Stephens hair holds all the knowledge of the world

Vor 18 Tage
mrlithium
mrlithium

It's epoxy surrounding the 2 mem chips. Question is why the others don't have it.

Vor 18 Tage
Tyler Fleck
Tyler Fleck

I think yah should have taken apart an actual 570/580 for comparison

Vor 18 Tage
Victor Liu
Victor Liu

Huh, I'm surprised they did not put any thermal pads on the rear side of the VRMs to use the backplate to help dissipate some of the heat generated.

Vor 18 Tage
Пётр Б.
Пётр Б.

What labels does die have? Would be interesting to compare them to those of RX570.

Vor 18 Tage
Miroslav
Miroslav

I would call it RX 570X

Vor 18 Tage
Shadowdraxx
Shadowdraxx

The Ram modules are probably different as they do a 3gb version, I’m assuming all come out as 3gb and they add the rest to some of the cards afterwards

Vor 18 Tage
Vernon Ray
Vernon Ray

hope you guys dont end up going like linus with the over acting....linus used to be good like this

Vor 18 Tage
Richie Zombie
Richie Zombie

Anyone else think of Megadeth when he said Polaris?

Vor 18 Tage
skillet pan
skillet pan

Are you going to donate this card to buildzoid to do an analysis and also to see how much he can mod and overclock it?

Vor 18 Tage
真白
真白

I am disappointed that u didnt say what the actual numbers on the memory module were :S Also, I wonder if it was possible to flash this card with, lets say, a powercolor RX570 bios

Vor 18 Tage
ClutchUpCody
ClutchUpCody

RX570 XP!!!

Vor 18 Tage
Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock

Dude, you forgot to link the toolkit!

Vor 18 Tage
Thanny
Thanny

At least stick to ATI/AMD naming conventions. That would make it a RX 570 XTX, or something like that. At least it's named differently, unlike the GT 1030 with DDR was initially.

Vor 18 Tage
Rob Barbieri
Rob Barbieri

The two RAM chips with the glossy glue is because they were hand reworked. My guess is the two chips that where there originally failed and rather then scrap the whole card for QC they popped the two chips off and had someone put down replacement chips.

Vor 18 Tage
Phillip Breyette
Phillip Breyette

Go for it

Vor 18 Tage
gendalfff
gendalfff

rx series is like a marketing trap for customers

Vor 18 Tage
ShampooTime
ShampooTime

no 'i fix it' link? or am i just blind?

Vor 18 Tage
Toms Tech
Toms Tech

So its like the gtx680>gtx770 then.

Vor 18 Tage
HellishINC
HellishINC

I have to agree with the other person that thinks it was originally a 3gb card. But bga components are damn near impossible to do by hand. It's possible but has a rather high failure rate due to shorting. Oh and Steve, what you planning on doing with that card? Perhaps give it away to a poor subscriber? Like me ;(

Vor 18 Tage
Wonders3004
Wonders3004

bga rework isnt impossible to do by hand look up louis rossman here on youtube

Vor 18 Tage
M M1
M M1

Ram- I have been assembling PCBs since 1995 and I've never seen that I would have to look at it under the scope to see exactly what it is. I can't think of a reason for that even if I needed to replace a ram chip I would only use flux and hot air no solder paste needed on a BGA replacement. Nut bars that's what we call them and have used them quite a lot in the old days to put a nut somewhere you can't reach.

Vor 18 Tage
Reggie Reginato
Reggie Reginato

Yea, not a horrible looking heatsink... It'll do the job it needs to do. As brain dead of a move AMD did in making the new SKU (it really is), at least it's not quite as (unsmart) of a move as nVidia's secret GeForce GT 1030 rerelease with DDR4 memory (that took the cake)...

Vor 18 Tage
Zombl337
Zombl337

i love these teardown videos.....always interested to see what theyre made of, but i cant afford to check them all out myself lol

Vor 18 Tage
Michael Archer
Michael Archer

Probably the reason would be the product has been re-worked. That's to say after the SMT had been done, it failed maybe via optical inspector or a rest gig, and so the quality inspection failed, to be re-worked. Thus fixed by hand. All be it a steady one.

Vor 18 Tage
J B
J B

I'd like to move to Dataland. It sounds magical.

Vor 18 Tage
Southern Hemisphere
Southern Hemisphere

China.

Vor 15 Tage
phill mcgroin
phill mcgroin

Powercolor uses those same odd rails on their Red Devil, got curious with mine and I was wondering what they were for.

Vor 18 Tage
Brutal Fates
Brutal Fates

I would like to see you guys OC a 570 and OC this card and see which one goes further. Same for a 580 and 590 OC both and see what works better. Just curiosity.

Vor 18 Tage
foxdie1001
foxdie1001

Steve said fat boy, I'm triggered.

Vor 18 Tage
Cavey Möth
Cavey Möth

I still hate that X on the front.

Vor 18 Tage
Colin Terry
Colin Terry

What you are looking at around the memory is something called underfill which is very deliberate and done by a robot usually. It’s there to prevent damage shear stress cause by thermal expansion. The material is usually a nonconducting, one-part epoxy. Hope this helps!

Vor 18 Tage
Jason Gooden
Jason Gooden

Nothing special on the backside!

Vor 18 Tage
Sir Brucie
Sir Brucie

Looks like a cheap Chinese GPU....

Vor 18 Tage
raikoh05
raikoh05

just get rx 480 on ebay

Vor 18 Tage
Jason Gooden
Jason Gooden

that plant is impressive

Vor 18 Tage
Tick Tock Tech
Tick Tock Tech

Sigh, they could have at least built this "RX 580" on 12nm so it maintains the same perf of an actual Polaris 20 based 14nm GPU (AKA RX 580).

Vor 18 Tage
needabettername
needabettername

For cyber cafes? Probably overstocked gpu fron mining surplus, just no announcement for it

Vor 18 Tage
Video Cards Vs
Video Cards Vs

No shit eh?!

Vor 18 Tage
Silat the Medic
Silat the Medic

Do you know what percentage of your viewers partake in overclocking vs not?

Vor 18 Tage
Questchaun
Questchaun

🇨🇳D A T A L A N D 🇨🇳

Vor 18 Tage
Andrew Froedge
Andrew Froedge

I dig the shroud design

Vor 18 Tage
Kira Slith
Kira Slith

Again, I don't get the surprise at China producing good products. They make excellent products all the time, its just that their local OEMs don't put as much effort specifically into products sold TO the western countries.

Vor 18 Tage
Andrei Neacsu
Andrei Neacsu

At $200, if this were done on 12nm and called "RX 575", that would have made for an awesome card at the price. Anyway, it's still better quality than many cards I've seen.

Vor 18 Tage
Noah Bird
Noah Bird

Emergence of white pc cases aka a comeback of the white pc, because everything is hip and humans have peaked creatively and intellectually.

Vor 18 Tage
Harkkyn
Harkkyn

Any chance for tear-down and testing on the Asus Ryujin 360 ?

Vor 18 Tage
MisterJulius
MisterJulius

Dunno about everybody else, but I'm seriously digging that shroud design.

Vor 19 Tage
WarGamingRefugee
WarGamingRefugee

Thermo couples = Government code for embedded, Chinese spying hardware.

Vor 19 Tage
Androvsky
Androvsky

i remember my old laptop having this blue coating on the screws, kinda as to see if the user had opened it up before RMA

Vor 19 Tage
wingracer 16
wingracer 16

No that's pre-applied Loc-Tite. Keeps the screws from coming loose on their own.

Vor 18 Tage
Wang Computers
Wang Computers

Dataland great vacation spot for the whole family !

Vor 19 Tage
Elon Wong
Elon Wong

5:05 how about the to 290/390 😂 16 modules for only 4GB

Vor 19 Tage
NeoVoodooTech
NeoVoodooTech

Mitigation for thermal shrinkage/ expansion. Something guys know a little something about. The angle of the dangle and what not.

Vor 19 Tage
Shuriken Cookies
Shuriken Cookies

RX 580 2048 (sponsored by RTX 2070) I found this way too hilarious!

Vor 19 Tage
Elon Wong
Elon Wong

*RX570x

Vor 19 Tage
Shuriken Cookies
Shuriken Cookies

RX 580 2048 sponsored by RTX 2070 I found that way too hilarious!

Vor 19 Tage
eddsson
eddsson

(You forgot the Ifixit-link!) Also, you're all awesome.

Vor 19 Tage
Tsofuable
Tsofuable

The sticker is there to inform that warranty is void if you remove the screw it it sits on, while also providing "evidence" of said removal by being punched through by a screwdriver. Interesting design, looks better than a lot of other cards that's for sure - albeit not amazing by any means.

Vor 19 Tage
Tsofuable
Tsofuable

wingracer 16 Steve wasn’t, since he was talking about how not removing the sticker meant he didn’t break warranty. So I pointed out the error in his logic.

Vor 18 Tage
wingracer 16
wingracer 16

Everyone is well aware of what the sticker is for. The problem is that enforcing that is illegal in the US.

Vor 18 Tage
Ruben Nonius
Ruben Nonius

This situation still doesn't look as bad as the 1030 ddr4...

Vor 19 Tage
Naizuri
Naizuri

+Vierax I think the GT 1030 DDR4 would have been fine if it was called GT 1010, or 1020, because compared to the GDDR5 variant it was way weaker. But yes, technically it was a GT 1030 while this technically isn't a RX 580 by any means but a RX 570, so in that sense this would be more misleading, but in terms of actual performance this scam RX 580 comes close to a real RX 580, while the scam GT 1030 was way slower than the real GT 1030.

Vor 18 Tage
Vierax
Vierax

If the price of the 1030 DDR4 was really dirt cheap, would that naming still bother you? Still I consider it should have been named 1020 but the major problem is the price point, not it's perf.I won't re-enter this debate but guys you seem to really don't know what a piece of junk is. It's misleading and overpriced for its performances, doesn't mean it's totally useless for certain usages just not a good deal for a non-gaming card (the 1030 GDDR5 is already ultra low spec for gaming : that's not the purpose of the DDR4 variant). As I said, it's quite a classic entry-level scam but at least here you have the actual Pascal architecture with the latest video processor unit and the low consumption at idle. It's way less bad than previous generations like the GT710 : That, was a real piece of junk.

Vor 18 Tage
MegaStupidMonkeys
MegaStupidMonkeys

+Vierax No. Memory bandwidth matters! The 570 is only 10% slower than the 580 and you can oc the 570 to almost match a stock 580. The 1030 DDR4 has only a third of the memory bandwidth compared to the GDDR5 variant and is 50% slower in modern benchmarks and games. The GDDR5 variant is an okay entry level card whereas the DDR4 variant is simply a piece of junk.

Vor 18 Tage
Ruben Nonius
Ruben Nonius

+Vierax don't take me wrong... Is bad anyway! Just think in the end, the 1030 it's even worse cuz of the drop in performance, it's not like comparing a gtx 1060 6gb vs 3gb.

Vor 18 Tage
Ruben Nonius
Ruben Nonius

+Vierax yeah same chip, same name and almost same price at launch, but under clocked and half the performance. Also global (being global makes a difference I think...) don't know about you, but more than names, and even chips, I care about performance, power consumption and price ofc. So I would prefer a 570 with a name 580 something, and 80~90 performance of the real 580 (just a guess) than having a gtx 1030 with a 1030 chip but having half the performance of the other 1030 gddr5.

Vor 18 Tage
Chase
Chase

Can you just summon buildzoid for these reviews?

Vor 19 Tage
Bjarne Kristensen
Bjarne Kristensen

They should just have stuck with the added X suffix to their naming scheme. This 580 version should have been called the RX 570X and the 590 version should have been called the RX 580X. Why changed something that was working nicely and didn't confuse anyone? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vor 19 Tage
Alejandro Suárez Mascareño
Alejandro Suárez Mascareño

Why even? It's no even the fastest RX 570...

Vor 19 Tage
2000cobraguy
2000cobraguy

Kinda surprised this card isn't in the Walmart UnderPowered PC

Vor 19 Tage
SIC66SIC66
SIC66SIC66

​+Jonathan davis I think its more the other way around. The new 20 series is so expensive so they can still sell off old 10 series stock AND make a lot of money from the suckers buying the 20 series

Vor 16 Tage
Jonathan davis
Jonathan davis

+SIC66SIC66 yah I think officially nvidia is not allowing the continued production of new 1080/1080tis because they wish their more expensive gtx cards to sell even if board partners could make them

Vor 16 Tage
SIC66SIC66
SIC66SIC66

Maybe, but I think especially GP104 stock must be massive, as we see even 1060's with GP104 dies. Fusing off half of the cores, crazy.

Vor 16 Tage
Jonathan davis
Jonathan davis

+SIC66SIC66 there is a lot of cards that aren't the 1080ti or 1080 still left but very few truly want those.

Vor 16 Tage
SIC66SIC66
SIC66SIC66

I think Walmart got those 10 series cards very cheap though. After hearing about how there is still a HUGE amount of 10 series cards left. Especially Gigabyte is rumored to have a LOT of stock, even after sending 300k GPU's back to Nvidia. Walmart is probably making a very high margin on those pc's.

Vor 18 Tage
Ironclad
Ironclad

Seems like a bare minimum VRM, but a practical heatsink and fan configuration makes it acceptable.

Vor 19 Tage
Matt Christie
Matt Christie

Just let me move this stack of video cards, so I can use the ModMat! (Clunk,Clunk,Clunk,Clunk,Clunk!) LOL!

Vor 19 Tage
Charles Balliet
Charles Balliet

lol 2080 has 50 screws to take the heatsink off ...this card has 4

Vor 19 Tage
wingracer 16
wingracer 16

I think it was actually six but you make a good point anyway.

Vor 18 Tage
KNGI Network
KNGI Network

Dataland seems to just be another brand name for PowerColor. They even sell the Red Devil as a Dataland-branded card.

Vor 19 Tage
wtfdinges
wtfdinges

This is actually quite an impressive card from Dataland/powercolor. Vrm setup is nothing fancy, but still more than enough for a RX 570. The cooler has been properly constructed but could probably do with better fans and an additional heat pipe. I might pick one up when I'm in China next month. They seem quite a good deal.

Vor 19 Tage
Dan Smith
Dan Smith

@GamersNexus have you ever tried putting thermal paste or pads on everything and see if that helps thermals overall? For example on all the back of a card that has a aluminium or metal back plate

Vor 19 Tage
Androvsky
Androvsky

the thermal paste only makes it easier to transfer the heat between the CPU and the heatsink. if its a coating then you'd also need a heatsink specially milled to fit every single component

Vor 19 Tage
Brent Carman
Brent Carman

If you don't need it, feel free to send it my way. I could do a video on flashing an actual rx 570 with this cards bios.

Vor 19 Tage
deinemuddaisdoof
deinemuddaisdoof

Datamine, ehm Dataland

Vor 19 Tage
Reginaldo Estremera
Reginaldo Estremera

Based, and redpilled

Vor 19 Tage
Omi
Omi

dissasembly an asl battlefag which is a weird 1050 :P

Vor 19 Tage
Dan Smith
Dan Smith

That's the exact same X as X-Factor

Vor 19 Tage
Dee Monk
Dee Monk

Why do you keep calling the card rx 570 TI,the TI cards didnt just have higher clock speeds they actually had different gpu,so this is more a rx 570 OC edition ;)

Vor 19 Tage

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