Cutting open an AIO with mixed metals


Clinton Laundrie
Clinton Laundrie

Pfft, use any dissimilar metals you want. Just install a sacrificial anode that you change out once a year.

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Isaac Clarke
Isaac Clarke

cutt open a amd cpu or intel

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Red
Red

You’re always leaking on your hand? Sounds like you need I cut back....

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Mjr Burn
Mjr Burn

Great vid as always, Thanks Jay and Co. This mixed metal crap is just that crap. Does Galvanic Corrosion actually occur, um ya it's a known fact. Will it affect your Loop to the point of Catastrophic Failure, No it's highly highly unlikely. Want proof look at any Automobile, they use water cooling and holy hell they also use an insane amount of mixed metals in their loops. Failures in Auto cooling do of course occur but it's more than likely that failure is in the hoses, gaskets or the bearings of moving components like the water pump. Those failures are the result of usage/normal wear and tear and very rarely anything to do with corrosion. That is of course if you don't just fill the radiator with water and not a 50/50 water to anti-freeze mix. Anti-freeze is not only to prevent freezing it has additives that prevent growth as well as lubricate your autos cooling system/water loop components. That's why everyone who knows anything about PC Water Cooling always advises using something other than just Distilled Water in your Loops. TLDR: Ignore all this Galvanic Corrosion BS, your system components will become obsolete long before GC actually causes any failures. I'd also argue unless your using some pretty boutique fluid you shouldn't need to drain, clean and refill your loop unless you have an issue no matter how long it's in use. We all know at most if your like me and never upgrade until forced to, high end rigs of today should last at least 4 years and if you upgrade your GPU every 2 you'll actually be cleaning your loop and refilling more often than you need to in most cases. When you upgrade you clean your loop, clean and reuse what you can and refill with new solution designed for it or just mix your own. Honestly anyone telling you, you have to replace fluids every 6 months or once a year is simply selling more product for the sake of selling it. That is if you use good fluids or again mix your own...

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Mjr Burn
Mjr Burn

NPC's will always, wait for it, NPC...

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Manosha Cooray
Manosha Cooray

Creative ad

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Grey
Grey

What are your thoughts on the Phanteks GLACIER G1080 ASUS STRIX (gpu block), that has 5 metals in its construction alone. I understand the point illustrated in the video but is 5 pushing it? Also in your opinion would it be safe to use Phanteks GLACIER G1080 ASUS STRIX and a EK-FB ASUS ROG R6E RGB Monoblock in the same loop, with them being made by different manufactures?

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Thomasmu
Thomasmu

4 years on the shelf or 4 years of constant use?.

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Daniel Armstrong
Daniel Armstrong

I study physics and am by no means an expert in chemistry, but I shall share my hypothesis/intuition. The aluminum inside the radiator looks oxidized, which is likely the key here. First, both copper and aluminum oxide are insoluble in pure water, which prevents natural dissolution of the ions. Also, even though copper and copper ii oxide are both electrically conductive, aluminum oxide is not, and even in the presence of a weak electrolyte, high heat, and a high potential difference, aluminum oxide will resist attempts at galvanization. There is a bit of strangeness here though, as the fluid smells and has a green tint to it, which indicates to me that the fluid is not pure deionized water. In fact, assuming some ion concentration to distilled water, one would exspect to see a blue tinge, as with copper ii hydroxide. That pale green is usually a product of copper tetrachloride, but given the reactivity between chlorine ions with aluminum oxide, I would expect to see corrosion. My guess is the solution is slightly acidic, below a pH of 9 to prevent the aluminum oxide from dissolving, but acidic enough to prevent microbial growth; that slight acidity would be enough to saturate the solution with copper ii ions from the metal (which would be an extremely low saturation concentration) and that is where the green tinge and vinigarish smell came from. I suspect the correct compound would produce free oxygen ions to react with free hydrogen and maintain an equallibrium in the layer of aluminum oxide, solution volume, and copper concentration in the loop. This would make sense as well when you consider how copper would dissolve and precipitate back out of solution with changes in temperature, preferring to settle back into nanoscopic divots of the copper as the metallic bonds only work where electrons can flow through the copper atoms; surrounding a copper ion with copper ions is more electrically and energetically favorable than settling on the surface of the copper lattice. Either way, the primary mechanism preventing galvanic corrosion is the aluminum oxide, which was probably pre-oxidized before the solution was even added. This would insulate the anion grounding of the copper block and prevent a significant flow of electricity between the two plates and through the fluid, which is the primary mechanism of galvanic reactions.

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Ram Manohar
Ram Manohar

would like to see how ASUS AIOs look from inside, though they are new to the market..

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Trik Stari
Trik Stari

Fractal cases still look boring as hell. They are the Fox Body mustang of the custom PC world. They look boring, spit in any direction and you'll hit 10 builds using them. Popularity as a con generally equals being a hipster, but this is a field with the word CUSTOM in the name. For fucks sake people, using something different.

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Jason H
Jason H

3:01 and 6:06 are the best

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Gábor Érdi
Gábor Érdi

the fractal man is baaaack ...

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Robin Porter
Robin Porter

A bit of JB-weld and you're good to go. lol

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Andzx
Andzx

Video idea? Buy new AIO use liquid from it in custom loop?

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jholotan best
jholotan best

This is undisclosed product placement and illegal. You can say it was an accidental but we all know It wasn't. So fuck that you just forced me to unsubscribe....

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Old_Newbie
Old_Newbie

That H100i looks too pristine. Must not have been used much, so there is no point in cutting it open at this early stage. The issue with AIOs is the constant circulation and eventual breakdown of the inhibitors in fluid, over a relatively short time (2+ years). Users of corsair AIOs (who have opened their pump units after a few years time) all have experience with 'green goop' clogging the copper plate. I'd be interested in seeing the inside of a rad AFTER the AIO has been in continual use.

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عمر محمد فتحي
عمر محمد فتحي

😂😂😂🤣 6:07

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Ed O'Neill
Ed O'Neill

stop doing dumb shit and get on with the topic, your getting worse the mr nerdgasam. Linus will tell a joke but he doesn't waste half the damn videos with stupid shit trying to act funny. And that's why he has almost 8 million subs and you only have 1 something... People want the INFORMATION, NOT goofy editing bs. Sorry I'm on the edge of unsubbing, I want tech, if I want comedy I'll watch a movie or stand up.

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Ed O'Neill
Ed O'Neill

umm, jay, copper is metal. in your description you mean copper and steel, or copper and aluminum, etc.... come on guy

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Daniel Maycock
Daniel Maycock

Without a doubt one of the funniest videos Jay and the crew have ever done.

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Joe G.P.
Joe G.P.

someone enlighten me: How does algae get in a cooling system ? and how does it grow without any nutrients or light ? cuz it sounds impossible to me.

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Fayke Vagabond
Fayke Vagabond

Yeah as a pool guy i really don't understand that either, from my understanding algae would need light AND phosphates in pools/spas. Here is a link to people asking the same question, they say that metal ions, and maybe the manufacturer isnt making the loop in 100% sterile environments so their food has a chance of getting in. I still dont understand how the algae would grow in complete darkness, the algae im familiar with uses photosynthesis to grow, maybe light does get through the black tubing somehow? http://www.overclock.net/forum/61-water-cooling/1556846-may-seem-like-odd-question-but-how-does-algae-grow-water-loop.html

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Jcewazhere
Jcewazhere

Cut open the blinds behind you, it looked like some scene from an apocalypse movie outside. Exactly how much caffiene (or meth) did you have before fliming this

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EDP's Sharted Toilet
EDP's Sharted Toilet

you blowing into that tube was pretty fucking disgusting

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Graham Lonnon
Graham Lonnon

Jay, have you lost a holy f-ton of weight fella. U look awesome!

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Ross Siggers
Ross Siggers

It's windy out

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hariharan ninjases
hariharan ninjases

jay can we see the cross section of a full metal water block or heat sink of a air cooler ?

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Pixel Dust
Pixel Dust

the two different metals have to be in contact, with electricity flowing between them, in the presence of a conductive fluid...where is that happening in an AIO? Except, of course, when you solder the endcap on...

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Gwee
Gwee

I've had my thermaltake 3.0 360 AIO for some 2 years now and was just recently wondering how it's looking on the inside by now. Then this popped up in my sub feed 👍

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Stephan Gonyo
Stephan Gonyo

Corrosion you need three things. metal water AND oxygen. With a seal AIO (no air) corrosion is minimal.

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Adam Feltes
Adam Feltes

6:08

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Dispie Dark
Dispie Dark

The metals also dont connect directly, in a AIO there a tube inbetween. Also a you can switch between copper and metal pipe in your plumming, by putting a special plastic and brass fitting in between. Would this be considered corrosion or Oxidation MSI try to do water cooling on there MSI Z170 Gaming M9 Ack. Making a copper pipe trough the VRM cooling the rest of the block was aluminium and the pipe had aluminium fittings nickel plated, ones the nickel damaged and it did almost strait away on all of the ones i had.I now had copper directly in contact with aluminium and brass EKWB fittings, I was using a Premix EKWB fluid but still the nickel plating on my EK CPU block and my MSI gtx seahawk started eating away and green copper oxidation was starting all over my loop, it happened so fast within 3 months that i did not see it untill my gpu acrylic burst because the radiator got jammed up with all the pieces nickel. I always see yellowisch fluid in AIO btw, PS i still have the first version (2010/2011) of the Corsair H100 in my server and have not had a singel issue with it, temps are still the same as when i bought it. Were as i did see a increase in temps like 5-10 degree when my other system started to eat away.

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Jay Morrison
Jay Morrison

Cringed.

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himynameistim
himynameistim

LOL jay u funny dawg.

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himynameistim
himynameistim

"regurgitate and repeat themselves but don't really understand what's happening" immediately thought over every Trump hater in the US.

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ApOcAIlyPsE
ApOcAIlyPsE

You have to disclose this shit

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Sam Parkin
Sam Parkin

its like you want us to facepalm every few seconds...

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Kevin spacey
Kevin spacey

As a guy who works on cars, but also have pc's as a hobby.. i think you guys are silly for crying over dissimilar metals... the coolant has stuff in it similar to cars that prevents it.. end of story.. done..

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fornox2
fornox2

Shady AF

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Shawn Varosky
Shawn Varosky

Mixing metals? For galvanic corrosion to occur in an AIO like the one you cut up, the radiator and heat sink would have to be electrically connected, or one metal in direct contact with the other. Not to mention that the fluid would need to be an electrolyte.

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chronicblazer84
chronicblazer84

Lol corrosion is oxidation. Yes metals can cause oxidation by putting different metals together, as well as putting the same metals . Corrosion needs oxygen in any case. The fluid used is an emulator, which is an oil mixed with water. The use of distilled water removes other minerals which may contain traces of oxygen molecules in them. Galvanizing itself is a form of creating an oxide layer to protect the metal itself.

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db4williams
db4williams

Interesting.

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Zanith50
Zanith50

if you have a sacrifical metal like silver or zink in your res i belive it stops any corrosion of the block etc

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Sushil Gregg Ramirez
Sushil Gregg Ramirez

8:31 how to basic ending :V

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BeanGreen 247
BeanGreen 247

*watches vid* @3:10 *starts laughting* *dies laughting*

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Something Pickles
Something Pickles

Cut open a 9900k be careful though it might cause an explosion bigger then splitting an atom or even anti matter

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Galeo Curvier
Galeo Curvier

I just don't like it how someone makes claims about a product, that they very well might have some sort of inside knowledge and publicly call people out for complaining about the RTX 2080ti's price, only then to have NVIDIA come out and prove them wrong, and now is silent about the topic.

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N8tehNotGr8 mishaps in gaming
N8tehNotGr8 mishaps in gaming

I think it would be pretty cool to see a cross-section cut of a pump motor for a water cooling loop. I have seen an exploded view, but something about cross sections is different and intrinsically more interesting for me.

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notmyrealname
notmyrealname

I always love the sponsorship spots with fractal josh

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Dante S550 10R80'S
Dante S550 10R80'S

I have a 5 year going on 6 year h100i if you want it! It's doing nothing important just cooling an fx8350. XD

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flipsideca
flipsideca

Ngreedia ShillsTwoCents... ridiculous price at $2500 for RTX Titan. Thanks, I will no longer be watching your channel and I have unsubscribed.

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troeteimarsch
troeteimarsch

oh a hole. o gotta smell on it ... :D boooooyyy

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Caddy Guy
Caddy Guy

When my H100i pump died I repurposed the block and radiator with an external pump. The coolant is just green because that is what they made it. When using water and anti algae the micro-fins clogged up quickly. I ended up grinding the fins off and enlarging the hole on the ?silicone? Insert. Still works a treat on a 3930k OCed to 4.4Ghz. The odd part about why I think the pump died has to do with the green coolant. I believe it was alcohol based and over time evaporated microscopically through the tubing thus allowing air into the system. Said air got trapped in the block pump assembly.

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BlueBlockHeads
BlueBlockHeads

Phill your editing is amazing!

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MrLunithy
MrLunithy

Ffs automotive coolant is and has coped.. understood... and overcome this for a long long time... it just amazes me the dribble the PC crowd delude themselves with.

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Sinnbadd
Sinnbadd

I died laughing when I heard the gun sound LOL

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Michael Pirroni
Michael Pirroni

the RTX Titan is now on Nvidia's WEB site....2500$ US before tax ouch...I will never buy a titan again.

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Frog
Frog

Nice to see Jay try new things, like cocaine

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PootatoTree
PootatoTree

WHy is my name in this vid.

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swansonberger
swansonberger

I like how all these idiot builders put machines together and then say "I'm a scientist!" Great video bub

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Mogs01gt
Mogs01gt

Jay, get a stand for your vice...

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Zipzeolocke
Zipzeolocke

so much for that theory about the 2080 TI being the Titan renamed…

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Vanessa and Daniel
Vanessa and Daniel

you got a like for acknowledging the existence aluminium.

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foulou2008
foulou2008

Titan Rtx box mhhh oh that video shows that box with "Titan RTX" on it...so what now? ^^ oh yeah 3k $ oder 2.8k€...that nothing for the price :) btw 15% faster then 2080ti? mhhh

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BootlegScarce :0
BootlegScarce :0

0:46 I never knew my pc case was a phone

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MahaVakyas
MahaVakyas

what a cheesy douchebag jay the nvidia hooker is

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Phillip Morrison
Phillip Morrison

great video

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Reltach
Reltach

You should cut open that radiator more. Down the middle and maybe even longways to explain the fins and how the heat is dissipated better or worse depending on different rad thicknesses. *shrug* I'm pretty sure I already understand it, but I'd still watch it!

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waka faka
waka faka

soldering aluminium O boy i want to see that :D

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arian Kazemzadeh
arian Kazemzadeh

yes

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Christian Homberger
Christian Homberger

you got my like for the commercial

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Adam Greene
Adam Greene

Jay think you lost your mind lol !!! Watched you long time keep up the good work !!!

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Kyle Shebilske
Kyle Shebilske

Ohh It's The Shill Bitch 4000! Buy RTX Everyone... The Titan Is Now Just The New TI He Said... You Gave My PC AIDS Jay... Why?

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The Gas Man
The Gas Man

Al-u-min-i-um

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error idk
error idk

*I S A W E D T H I S C O O L E R I N H A L F*

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James
James

The two dissimilar metals are separated by a rubber hose. Galvanic corrosion cannot occur without metal to metal contact, regardless of electrolyte. - your friendly neighborhood materials engineer

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Practical DIY
Practical DIY

I know this might be a real bad idea but can you use automobile summer coolant in the rad system as these are usually mixed metal also.??

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OptimusBananas
OptimusBananas

CUT open a old CPU like a 2700K or something.

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Lanzuel
Lanzuel

5:04 And i'm gonnnnneee

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Cory Gilbert
Cory Gilbert

One of the few channels were I hit like after the baked in ad.

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Rowan Streeter
Rowan Streeter

Now, reconnect the pump and put the radiator in a tub of distilled water and run it until corrosion causes the pump to fail to demonstrate your point.

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Jim Cole
Jim Cole

So the question I have is how rough was the aluminum inside the radiator? Was there any electrolysis in the system at all?

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Strangely My Comments Usually Get Quite Popular
Strangely My Comments Usually Get Quite Popular

Too much fun to be called work

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Johnny F. Good
Johnny F. Good

Aluminium*

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kenya swallow
kenya swallow

he looks away when he grabs the box like hes ashamed

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Wilhelm Bergan
Wilhelm Bergan

aluminum

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Beerenmüsli
Beerenmüsli

Jay, please dont overuse "I digress". It sounds weird if you say "I digress" after a perfectly in-topic-sentence.

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Diogenes of Sinope
Diogenes of Sinope

OPEN 2080TI

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Generic Name
Generic Name

Jay, cut open your rtx titan in the back there!

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Aldo Rizkiawan
Aldo Rizkiawan

That's where people forget that aluminum form a layer of aluminum oxide outside to prevent it to rust further more. It basically already rusted, but did not experience discoloration like steel. It's science

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ZeroZx2
ZeroZx2

HERD MENTALITY

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purkeypilot
purkeypilot

Galvanic corrosion is the result of a literal current due to a difference in potential (voltage) between the dissimilar metals. The chance of galvanic corrosion happening when the two metals are that far apart is almost nonexistent. Galvanic corrosion generally occurs when the metals are very close (touching). Think an aluminum plate mounted to steel getting rained on. There's a (small) potential difference between the metals and the (impure) water acts as an electrolyte to complete the circuit. That's when you'll get galvanic corrosion. AIOs won't experience corrosion, even if they used DISTILLED water. The fear that they will is due to a lack of understanding of how things work. People should calm down and stop trying to out-think physicists and engineers.

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Elandril DoEndur
Elandril DoEndur

Actually using distilled water would be perfect, since it is a great insulator (only H+ & OH- without any other metal ions).

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Jeffrey Black
Jeffrey Black

Most comments regarding galvanic corrosion are based upon pure ignorance. If you have 2 systems, one made of copper and one made of aluminium (without their salts), and neither corrode, bringing them together wont make them corrode. It is only if they would already corrode that the corrosion of 1 metal (in this case aluminium) would be sped up; or if you have one of the salts (in this case a copper salt) in the fluid loop, then the salt will be reduced to the metal while the other metal is oxidised. Also note that for this system, it might actually be better than a single metal system as the heatblock on the CPU which would typically be one of the hottest parts and thus the fastest to corrode would be protected from corrosion. Also, it requires an electrical connection between the metals (e.g. metals touching) to work anyway.

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urimashe
urimashe

I would like to point out, that most Vehicles on the market, use mixed metals in their engine, aluminum radiator, cast iron block, aluminum heads, brass radiator/heater cores, ect. they combat this mix of metals with the coolant. or they use metals gaskets between the metals. this type of thing has been going on for years with out major issues when proper maintenance is performed.

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Gulagtus USSR
Gulagtus USSR

I think you should cut open a 2080 ti

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wolvie45
wolvie45

Cut open Nvidia's greed.

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Vishnu Prateek
Vishnu Prateek

I want the Titan RTX card #deeplearning

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hector hernandez
hector hernandez

Dont vice usually work better when secured?

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Dropbear
Dropbear

It's been a while since I've designed anything metal assemblies, but from memory galvanic corrosion requires electrical connectivity between the two metals, directly or indirectly. Distilled water is not conductive. Some coolants are also non-conductive (which I'd expect to be preferable in PC water cooling setups for obvious reasons). So, I'd be VERY surprised to see any galvanic corrosion at all between any combination of metals that are only linked via plastic, glass, rubber, and non-conductive fluid. Happy cooling!

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JAlexL00
JAlexL00

Hey bro, I really do enjoy your show. One thing that I've noticed is that you use the term "I digress" way too often and sometimes in the incorrect context. I counted you said it three(3) times in one episode. I don't use that term that often in an entire year, if ever... Idk, I'd scale it back on that one. Killer show, though dude! Your show actually got me to get moving on a new build finally and I think you have convinced me to water cool. We will see.

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