AMD To Raise Core Count For Ryzen 3000 Series | X570 & TR3 Details & More


AirLancer
AirLancer

In any case, always take leaks with a grain of salt and temper your expectations. It'd be a shame if AMD were to release some very good products, only for public opinion to sour because they don't live up to some sort of pie-in-the-sky level leaks.

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Donovan Bailey
Donovan Bailey

lmao Most of these gamers aren't even using all the cores anyway. Focus on single core speeds.

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Ian Sklar
Ian Sklar

Pls help I was going to go intel. I have an nvidia 2080ti .So what inexpensive solution can I use while I wait for and 3000? Much appreciated.

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Dee
Dee

What's with the weird sound? He sounds like a 🤖

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kalef1234
kalef1234

1:30 that is the most helpful photo I have seen in my life

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Richard Scarlett
Richard Scarlett

Still going down the dual channel memory payh? They should be using quad channel now, Soooo disappointed

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Chris Benn
Chris Benn

You are talking a bit too much! :) I lose focus!

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eugkra33
eugkra33

They could lock out the high end 12 core screws to the 500 series boards programmatically like intel did with coffee lake. Same socket. At least allow people to upgrade to new 8 core R5. No R7 processor.

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Mohamad A Rahman
Mohamad A Rahman

Guys..if I want a cpu that can play the latest games on 1080hp 144mh and I do not want to overclock, which should I look at? The pc is for gaming only. Im planning on a t1070ti gpu and the rig can hopefully last at least till 2020 when I intend to switch to the Ryzen 3000 series. Thanking you all in advance.

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Rob
Rob

I'm used to bios' from the 90s I could care less about the looks.

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Roro Yo
Roro Yo

more cores don't matter for gaming at this time in history

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Teh509
Teh509

2019 The year of AMD.

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Thanny
Thanny

10:30 There would be no difference in size between 12 and 16 cores. The former would have two Zen 2 chiplets and an I/O die, with six cores on each chiplet enabled. The latter would have exactly the same, but with all eight cores enabled.

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Xamiakass
Xamiakass

Ofcourse motherboard manufacturers don't like amd for backsupporting... i mean if there is no back support, means people that own say ryzen 1000 series or 2000 series and mobo don't need to BUY A NEW MOBO, just the cpu in order to upgrade. 16mb my arse.

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_Larkin_
_Larkin_

I would be pretty pissed off, if I had bought that expensive Xhair 6 Hero on the premise it would still be supported. If it can handle a 1700@3.9 allcore, it can as well handle a 3700X @stock

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Z-fella
Z-fella

I will be quite disappointed if they do not make the new cpus backward compatible with AM4

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Larry Gall
Larry Gall

People should learn how to tune memory if you're going to adopt a new architecture early. With Ryzen, there is a "Ryzen DRAM Calculator" made by a guy "1usmus" or something like that, you can find it on Overclock dot net, which can give you some damn good tuning numbers for all of the timings and sub/tertiary. You need to download Taiphoon Burner to read the memory sticks SPID before that. There are videos on this here on Youtube, and Overclock dot net will have much, much more. Sorry if I mis-spelled anything, I'm not home and am doing this from memory (no pun intended lol)...

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Neset Kagan Velioglu
Neset Kagan Velioglu

If 300 series motherboards wont support 3000 series cpus I will sue AMD. They gave us a promise you know. I bought x370 cuz i knew i would be able to update it for 3000 series. They just sold me a mobo+cpu by saying lies.

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Neset Kagan Velioglu
Neset Kagan Velioglu

+Thanny if powerful 250$ x370s and x470s fails how will the x570s make it?

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Thanny
Thanny

All current AM4 motherboards will support most 3000-series CPU's. They won't support the 16-core version, should that be manufactured. The 12-core version might be restricted to some chipsets, as a proxy for power delivery ability.

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DSM Dallas
DSM Dallas

This guy has great info and topics but maybe needs a cat in the background and some red bull!

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DSM Dallas
DSM Dallas

I want my gaming PC with 128 cores and 256 threads, so I can run my 1-4 core games at ultra without even breaking my idle speeds just so I can say I can. LMAO

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DSM Dallas
DSM Dallas

But AMD promised us 2020 support.. LMAO suck it butter cup. MO POWA! Needs MO POWA!

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BlitzUnnamed Gaming
BlitzUnnamed Gaming

i have the feeling amd and intel already assume everyone uses a watercooler in their system, but where are the decent aio's at?? as far as i can tell most of the aio's pumps fail or at least start making noises in only 1-2 years...

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Chuck Peck
Chuck Peck

Let the hype train start at the AMD station! Woohoo!

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der Jack
der Jack

"unfair" in this context is ridiculous! (if all true) whoever from AMD informed under NDA - tge unfairness has already been taken off.

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Your Highness
Your Highness

Ryzen core speed is still too low. Adding cores was always a diversion. 5ghz stock and tame the fucking heat and stop ripping us the fuck off. Fucking Monopolistic coporations.

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Karl Marx
Karl Marx

The higher core count is not a good sign. This means that AMD is unable to beat Intel in the single core performance area so the are forced to add more cores in order to make their components more desirable. Edit: Obviously there is a possibility of them still making lower core count CPUs with stronger single core performance to try to match/defeat Intel in that department. Im just worried about them not being able to do so since everyone is talking about more cores, not better performance per core.

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TRUTH SEEKER
TRUTH SEEKER

Looks a lot to what Julian Assange would say

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Brandon Chapman
Brandon Chapman

Don't need more cores keep me 8 at 5Ghz

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ikiwyu
ikiwyu

Can't wait for Ryzen 4, 32 cores at 2.4ghz

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Hansel Anaya
Hansel Anaya

why so fucking close to the camara its my only bad opinion

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ikiwyu
ikiwyu

We don't need more cores from AMD we need better IPC. If AMD can beat Intel in this department they'll wipe Intel off the map.

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usucdik
usucdik

Too much bass shaking the mic.

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DR.NEGA
DR.NEGA

so expecting IPC gains from intel 14nm ice lake architecture its 35% gains for every clock cycle measure for its 4 cores then upwards to 48 cores

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DR.NEGA
DR.NEGA

reason AMD rushing 7nm is fear Intel might been lying on delays....perhaps they know more than their customers...YES INTEL IS ON SCHEDULE FROM INTERNAL REPORTS THAT MEDIA ARE SHUN OFF DUE TO OPPONENTS KNOWING THE RELEASE 14nm COMET LAKE is the first ICE LAKE ARCHITECTURE then 10nm shrunk due july 2019...while AMD won't be ready by oct 2019 7nm or later 2020...

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DR.NEGA
DR.NEGA

AMD promising stuff that will not deliver like their GPU's ...next year will be huge blow to AMD ...and huge opportunity for intel and NVIDIA

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Heath Townley
Heath Townley

I call bullshit on the "minimum 12 core" nonsense.. that piece was not thought through very well I believe.

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ASMRBear
ASMRBear

When ur pc is ded and u know that Ryzen 2 will just be damn good and u don't want to buy a X470+Ryzen or z390+i7 now, cause fuckin Ryzen 2 while it's a damn half year till X570 and Ryzen 2 release )o)

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max bootstrap
max bootstrap

240Hz display rate is ridiculous. The overall IPC gain (over all applications) of Zen 2 versus Zen will be 10% to 15%, with 12% to 13% being most likely. - Ryzen 2 : 16core/32thread - Threadripper 2 : 32core/64thread - Epyc 2 : 64core/128thread AMD needs to keep the pedal to the metal, otherwise they will not be able to stay competitive more than 1 or 2 years. This means AMD must offer the best CPUs they can at each release, even if they must accept minor inconveniences (like, for example, 16-core Ryzens cannot run on older or lower-level motherboards).

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James H
James H

The top Ryzen will be 12c. They are not going to go 16c. The reason has always been because that will make 2 of their Threadripper SKU's redundant in one fell swoop. Nobody is going to purchase a 2950x for £800+ when they can get a higher clocked Ryzen 3 for half the price. They will match core count to their lowest TR chip (2920x) & add on £50/£100.

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Shaun H
Shaun H

RedGamingTech 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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Jeffrey Photonboy
Jeffrey Photonboy

1) 12/16-core AM4 Ryzen is probably a 2x 8-core chiplet + IO chip design. That's by far the easiest approach since they can use the same chiplet design (with minor modifications) for both Threadripper and EPYC and since the 12/16-core for AM4 is probably a very niche area why go higher? Also, wouldn't it be easier to turn off one of the 8-core chiplets on-the-fly in Windows to get around the NUMA type issues for gaming? 2) POWER problems for motherboards? Here I'm confused. Isn't the new 7nm for Ryzen supposed to use almost exactly HALF the power? Wouldn't the power requirements then for 2x the cores be roughly the same?

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Thanny
Thanny

There are no NUMA issues with the chiplet design. All cores have exactly the same path to the memory controllers on the I/O die. Memory access is uniform on a single socket.

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Benjamin H
Benjamin H

This would be insane! Would be happy with 12 cores, 16 would just be nuts!

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emperorSbraz
emperorSbraz

why do you encode your voice at such low bitrare? it's awful to listen to m8 cmon git gud. :)

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InDreamsYourMine
InDreamsYourMine

My guess is 3000 series processors will have an I/0 in the middle with a CPU chaplet on each side.

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Etheoma
Etheoma

Honestly AMD and there partners could just do a stripped down temporary BOIS which has support for all the CPUs they have ever launched on AM4 and really the only thing that needs to work is the flashing utility, the viable BOIS would only have to be a screen saying "Pleas insert USB key with version BIOS for your currently installed CPU. Go to www.here.com to get the BOIS." Or they could also enable networking also; so that you could download it from inside the BOIS. The development time on such a simple BOIS shouldn't really be a big problem considering they don't have to worry about performance or anything other than stability, then have a Ryzen 3000 / Zen 2 specific BOIS which you can flash after flashing the temporary BOIS.

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Dorian Gray
Dorian Gray

2990wx is near useless as it doesn’t have 8 channel memory as well as slow interconnects. Imagine a low cache 2950 in dual channel memory. Yay...

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Thanny
Thanny

The problem with the 2990WX is mostly with the Windows scheduler, which doesn't properly handle the NUMA configuration. In any case, it's not about the number of memory channels, but about latency. With the current WX processors, two dies have no memory controller, so must access memory through the other dies. With the Zen 2 chiplet design, all cores have exactly the same memory latency, because they all access memory through the central I/O die.

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Dorian Gray
Dorian Gray

I can’t wait for 0.1ghz more near 2020 and 2909 cores yes! I will enjoy life on my z390 and 4.7 ghz for 55 watts k thanks

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zycane
zycane

Looking forward to upgrade to Ryzen 3000 series, from 1600, for the first time in a long time, CPU upgrades improvements are utterly madly good, well done AMD.

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André
André

and people are forced to buy new mobos!

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Warren Puckett
Warren Puckett

So the next AMD GPUs will be Nappy and Hairy with Flagship being Nappy Hair?

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Sire DragonChester
Sire DragonChester

I hope the go with new Amd motherboards, there maybe some bugs like when 1xxx launched. But AMD cares about bios updates and the care about quality AMD Hardware. I’m still on fence to buy R7 2700x to replace my older i7 3770k 3.5ghz cpu. It’s been good for last 5+ yrs but I seriously want newer one. Ddr4 ram prices are still crazy high here in Canada, I may just hold off till zen 2 launch’s. Hopefully they use new motherboard. Wish they mention about ddr5, in hopes ddr4 would drop in price. Good video as always.

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James Lewis
James Lewis

From what I know of this upcoming series it could well be worth upgading from my X370 board when the X570 boards are released. Currently I have an Asrock board that has given me a lot of trouble in getting the best out of my CPU so along with the support for 3200mhz DDR4 and PCIE 4 support it just makes sense. I would imagine though that I will need to upgrade to a newer CPU to enable the PCIE 4 feature because the controller on my CPU will be PCIE 3 but that is something I can save up for and get later on. That they are looking to go up to 16 cores is good news for me as I will not need anywhere near that many. An 8 core will be more than enough for me (I am currently running a R5 1600) so that should mean I only need a mid range chip like the basic R5 unit which currently is a quad core.

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freak777power
freak777power

16/32 core on AM4 socket over dual memory channel is going to f. choke. That it is not going to happen on AM4 socket.

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beaR
beaR

Ahhh what happened to tittycum video!!!111one?

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Windows XP
Windows XP

I'd take an old school text-based BIOS over loss of compatibility any day.

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jeff knudsen
jeff knudsen

My next CPU is hopefully something like this: 6 cores, 12 threads 4.6 - 4.8 ghz (might have to OC, but that's fine) IPC that is 4-8% better than Intels current IPC Power consumption on par with current R5 2600x or better.

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Paul Sim
Paul Sim

Guess we are going to find out which Motherboard Vendors cheaped out on low memory BIOS's on there boards. (I think it was about $10 or less from the small memory vs larger bios memory).

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beaR
beaR

Really bad analogy lol

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Newtype 0085
Newtype 0085

DAMNIT PAUL! I'M DIGGING THROUGH A DRAWER OF DRUGS TO START MY DAY AND YOU JUST HAAAAD T0 TALKING ABOUT HAL-LIFEEEESS!!!!

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Wombo Combo
Wombo Combo

Nothing exclusive or new in this video. The rambling is real in this one. Shave your face dude.....

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Maroš Macko
Maroš Macko

"More VRM phases = good" Very misleading statement. Not only phase count matters, also if they are using phase doublers/something else, or quality of MOSFETs and VRM cooling. And more. There are high end motherboards with 4 phases performing better than some 8 phase motherboards. Not going further, there are many resources on this. Written, or in video form (Buildzoid, GamersNexus,...)

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Randall Lawkin
Randall Lawkin

What the heck will I do with all these cores???🤔 All I need is a kick ass 6core that can game very well at 1440p with almost same ipc and maybe 10fps max difference as Intel 8700k and I'm good. can stream and

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Alecxace
Alecxace

comet lake 10 core @$729

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shayelad shayelad
shayelad shayelad

My k7 x370 still doing problems with this kit CMU16GX4M2C3200C16 I can reach 3000 16cl stable🥺

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Milos Kajganic
Milos Kajganic

If they are improving the core count they are afraid of the next gen Intel. Intel will back their IPC lead... it will be late, but they don't care. They shouldn't improve the core count IMO. As they are attacking they TR lineup directly... but this means long term they want to improve the ZEN3 or 7+nm to increase clock and IPC so they can still compete with the 10nm intel... More cores for ZEN2? It is a bad news if you ask me. And no support for older mobos? Why defend this... it is not right. I bought the 2600 and x370 for this hype, the story that they will support at least ZEN2. I was not hopping for the ZEN3 as I thought they will increase the core count then. And all Crosshair and godlike mobos, for 2700x... that is a waste of money for the consumers. And similar with as Intel was doing... I guess also that dual channel 16 core CPU from AMD will be like 32 TR... no bandwidth to support such cores and a power hungry bad CPU, for an OK price. But anyone who is making money out of his computer with it, shouldn't go that route.

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Ph42oN
Ph42oN

Motherboard vendors must want to continue doing the shit intel has been doing all this time while amd was doing bad. Really its not like people would expect old x370 board to be as good as x570 for ryzen 3000, but if it doesnt work, then what they said before about am4 was a big lie. I didnt get higher end motherboard than i ever had before to replace it 2 years later. If thats what i have to do it would have been better to get intel. I dont think you need to list every single cpu in bios for it to work. I had Phenom II x4 975 working on motherboard that only listed x4 965 and lower as supported. Really that VRM thing is not a problem, they just need max tdp ratings for motherboards. In am2 and am3 boards they had tdp ratings, and not all cpus were officially supported on low end boards, there was some boards rated for max 95w tdp cpus, while most quad core phenoms were 125w tdp. And of course you should not overclock cpu if its tdp is max rated for your motherboard.

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Matthias Banckaert
Matthias Banckaert

we will se 16 core at 4,7 GHz boost. (still hoping for 5ghz). Threadripper will stay at 32 cores, otherwise it's a competition to their own EPYC 2 CPU's.

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ikiwyu
ikiwyu

Make sure you keep a fire extinguisher on your desk for when your VRMs catch fire

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aboud alaboud
aboud alaboud

Well.. just take these rumors with grain of salt I mean.. come on, rumors are rumors, it's just prediction, nothing official from AMD yet Also, if they did like 16 cores & 12 cores, that would leave Ryzen 3 with 8 cores (that not budget CPU anymore lol) Also, rising cores will means rising prices + frequency won't be that great Imaging Ryzen 5 3600x have 12C - 24T while 2700x have 8C - 16T That not gonna happen, that will make consumers angry, especially people who have Ryzen+ Ryzen 5 3600x have 12C - 24T just like ThreadRipper 2920x.. with less than half price.. that's not gonna happen people It's mostly 3700x will have 12C - 24T yes, but not double (considering Intel will have i9 with 10 cores)

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aboud alaboud
aboud alaboud

+Thanny That's an opinion.. but who knows We will see their release in 2019 (mostly 4-6 months) And maybe they announce their specs before that

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Thanny
Thanny

Ryzen 3 = 6 cores. Ryzen 5 = 8 cores. Ryzen 7 = 12 cores. Ryzen 9 = 16 cores. That's how it will play out. The advantages of Threadripper extend beyond the core count. That's why the 1900X existed - 8 cores, just like the 1700/1800 chips, but with four memory channels and 64 PCIe lanes. Everyone with an existing AM4 system will be able to upgrade to a chip with more cores and higher clock speeds. No one's going to be angry. But only new motherboards will support the Ryzen 9 chips, to ensure adequate power delivery, and perhaps a few other tweaks.

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krayzieka
krayzieka

zen 2 will able to eliminate intel 14nm+++ fab. no more 14nm mean no more capacity to the world. now is 7nm

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Max Hughes
Max Hughes

AMD Ryzen 1000 series was 266mhz mmemory steps, not 200 like Intel. 1866/2133/2666/2933/3200 AMD . 2800/3000 were added later, but not a Ryzen speed.

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Michal Szlachta
Michal Szlachta

Dude please PLEASE! get a better microphone.

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Veritas
Veritas

Amd have to support forward/back compatibility it was promised until 2020, huge problem if amd make the stupid decision and go back on there word. This is all about greedy board makers trying to make more money they should concentrate on making better boards cause so far on am4 i'm not impressed with any of them which is why i've not upgraded , Am4 still feels like its been treated poorly in comparison to the intel boards and price is just silly now for a good X series board. This better change soon cause mainstream is about to be mostly am4 and they'll sell less and less intel boards going forward, i'm waiting on a good am4 board at a good price not this £250 BS. On a side note i'm glad that the 200ge is now overclockable amd made a mistake locking that down it now kills the pentium 👍 here's hoping it stays unlocked. Still waiting on them to fix the release issue of the 2300x/2500x and they really, really, really need a proper gpu out NOW not this overpriced rx590 refresh of a refresh of a refresh crap, talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

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kkgen
kkgen

Intel could recover if they slash prices in half for six months

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Rattan Bhinder
Rattan Bhinder

Ur edited voice is so irritating

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Mr11ESSE111
Mr11ESSE111

probably r7 3800x will be 12/24 c/t cpu with around 105Wat tdp and possible could be clocked up to 4,6-4,7ghz and price around of 450$ !! price could be higher if Zen2 will wipe floors with Intel 14nm cpu-s (coffelake) in everything and Intel dont have nothing by then to respond

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Doom Guy
Doom Guy

I will leave this here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21xK8Ow7PT8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6AG-woscDU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvVXGWJSiE

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AdamFJH
AdamFJH

A 15% IPC gain from the first generation isn't really that much... I wish AMD would just concentrate on increasing IPC, core speed, IMC and improving memory and infinity fabric latency instead of adding more cores and I really need AMD to keep backwards compatibility with their previous boards. Also, are the 3rd generation Threadripper CPUs going to be compatible with x399 boards? One of the main reasons I decided to go with Threadripper instead of Intels x299 platform was because of the high possibility of backwards compatibility with previous chipsets.

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Mariano
Mariano

The last time we got 15% was sandy bridge era. 2010? 8 fucking years. 15% is IPC, not clock speed. + clockspeed is possible a 25% so.... that is enough to take intel down.

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SoulClick
SoulClick

No need to raise the core count, make the latency about %35 better, make it run like 4,8GHZ with no problem, and make it about %25 percent efficent by the 7 nm. Thats well enough, innovation.

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Sh4rki3 SWE
Sh4rki3 SWE

Release an X590 for 12-16 then. Leave the X370,X470 and X570 for smaller cores how hard is it.

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Nik Senior
Nik Senior

June really? Early 2019 my fucking arse.

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magottyk
magottyk

AM to AM+ there will always be boards that do not meet the minimum requirements to support the latest and the greatest. VRM's aren't the real issue as not all the 3000 series are going to be high core count options, there will be 6 core and 8 core variants and most likely 4 core. But the supported processors on low end motherboards will likely stop at the lower powered lower core CPU's depending on where the new TDP's will sit. Technically the VRM's aren't really an issue at all, it just means that not all Ryzen 3000 CPU's will be able to run in all boards. A lot of budget boards may not get supporting BIOS upgrades at all, but to not provide select boards especially the higher end X370 with the updates to support the new processors, will create a furore amongst those who paid good money looking towards 2020 as the cutoff. I suspect that the X570 chipset will be an AM4+, which is still technically an AM4 socket and AMD said that they'd support the socket until 2020 not that all AM4 boards will support all generations of AM4 processors, though it's kind of implied. When AM3+ and FX processors were released, technically AM3 boards would not support the new processors, though there are instances where there were beta BIOS released and some boards could run bulldozer CPU's but not Piledriver. An example is M4A89TD PRO/USB3 which supports all the first gen FX X1XX series, but not later piledriver X3XX series. Similar thing happened with AM2 to AM2+ boards, where AM2 could support first gen Phenom, but not Phenom 2 and not all boards. So what we can expect that AMD won't make Ryzen 3000 officially backwards compatible, but some of the first gen boards should support all the third gen Ryzen CPU's and more will have partial support for lower TDP processors. If it's a question of BIOS memory, then it's very possible that to support the new range, that some of the fancier interfaces may cut back a few things to accommodate the upgrade and be listed as Beta bioses and the end user can decide. E.G. the X470 crosshair 7 with its 256MB BIOS will be able to run Gen 3 Ryzen without memory Issue, while the Crosshair 6 with only 128MB may require a compromised beta bios to support Gen 3 Ryzen (everything else about the board is up to spec for 200W plus TDP), by removing for example previous gen APU and quad core support from a beta AGESA code and/or a few tweaks to remove some graphics from the Bios or downgrade them to make them smaller and free up the memory space required. A simpler interface with support or a fancy interface without, which would you choose as an end user?

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Gabriel Soria
Gabriel Soria

GREAT! Now i'm going to have to fork over more money for a 16 core 32GB system. Just hope by then RAM prices drop and they sell the 16 core Ryzen chip for around $500

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KangoV
KangoV

Intel just cannot make their die any bigger. Yields are bad on the bigger chips as it is. AMD chose the correct decision to use CCX s with chiplets connected with Infinity Fabric. Way better yields and you can mix and match.

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KangoV
KangoV

+Qunatum Troll their 28/4? core Xeon has a die size of 698mm/2. This is huge and results in very low yields. AMDs ccxs are much smaller and give much better yields, but if a CCX has broken cores they can be used on non server Ryzen skus giving AMD very good flexibility.

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Qunatum Troll
Qunatum Troll

Sure they can, they could remove the GPU for starters which takes half of the die space.

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David Gunther
David Gunther

Even if more cores are available I'd probably still get an 8 core. There's not enough memory bandwidth with DDR4 on AM4 for 16 cores.

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Sourour Khatib
Sourour Khatib

You missed on a very important factor on the power discussion and new boards debate. We are talking about 7nm CPUs right! and as we saw AMD have confirmed for the EYPIC line that this new shrink in die size will allow them to get double the performance pre watt or in other words the same power consumption can drive double core counts of previous zen generation. This means there is a great chance for current gen mothoerboards to be able to handle the new gen zen3 CPUs without requiring to supply more power.

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Nick V
Nick V

I am really worried that my Hero 6 MB wont be supporting 3xxx. And I will be pissed if its because of bios size or just the vendors wanting to sell new stuff.

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MrSicko
MrSicko

So glad I didnt cheap out on my mobo and got gigabyte aorus gaming 7

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Mulberry2000
Mulberry2000

I have ryzen 2700x and its a pain to get it working with ram kits. I have corsair vengeance 3000 mhz 32 gig kit. I did manage to get it working and it is very stable and i love it now. The bios on the mis x470 board does not like choosing a sata ssd drive over the m.2 drive. it will always goe for the latter and that is a pain if you have your os on the sata hd. Still i love it and and loved the fx8350 cpu i had before, but the 2700x is way better and i have a lovely heat sink and fan to go with i t

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JohnSTF72
JohnSTF72

I'm not sure why the "average" user would require a 12+ core processor for his / her everyday use right now. But i sure welcome the possibility for this upgrade in the future. It also brings intense competition to Intel, if AMD pulls it off smoothly.

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Martijn Venhuizen
Martijn Venhuizen

Get more views, step up your microphone game!

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shakattak
shakattak

The AMD 9590 FX CPUs we're ridiculous 220W TDP and those 990 motherboards had 8+2 VRM setup. X470 have 8+3 or even 10+2 so I'm sure they can support 12-16 core with precision boosts to 4.5-5GHz possible on liquid cooled setups for high-end

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Robert Stevens
Robert Stevens

I really don't want to change my motherboard. It's more money I have to spend and it's such a huge pain to pull out everything just to replace it. Just make the bios more basic visually or something so I can keep my motherboard. I wonder if it's possible to make 2 different versions of the bios, one for people upgrading from 1000 series that just supports the 1000 and 3000 series and one for people upgrading from 2000 series to 3000 series. Would that decrease the size of the bios as well?

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shakattak
shakattak

I don't like leaks. It's unfair to AMD. We need to find the source and tell him to stop

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Sean Pereira
Sean Pereira

Well you say my bios chip is 16mb.....my bios files for my X470 motherboard are 10mb, that means they have 6mb free, one of the reasons people chose AMD over Intel was the promise to support all future CPUs until 2020, maybe what they should do is put a warning on the bios update, if you flash this bios to support Ryzen 3000 you will loose support for Ryzen 1st gen for instance, it will reduce the file size.

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Ken Mathis
Ken Mathis

Damn, I need to build a computer at the beginning of the year and can't wait for Ryzen 3000 and x570. Here is hoping that x470 boards can support the 3000 chips so I have a nice upgrade path. That's a good reason to go with a better VRM design even if I won't need it right now. Would still be a bummer if could upgrade due to limited bios memory space.

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Blaine Hopkins
Blaine Hopkins

from my understanding the 7nm 8 core chiplets are approx. 71mm^2 each, so if the Ryzen version of the mem/io controller is small enough , getting 16 cores on am4 seems quite doable.

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Tech Pappee
Tech Pappee

I can see AMD not supporting 'some' of the 3000 series on B350/450 but not the X line. I spent nearly $280 on my Crosshair VI (8+4 VRM), it should support the new chips. I bought a highend mobo with the PROMISE it would be supported until 2020. I understand not supporting lower end with 12 or 16 cores but not the high end boards.

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Daniil Gostryi
Daniil Gostryi

Relax, AMD haven't said that old chipsets don't support rzen 3xxx.

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Steamed Aurora Borealis
Steamed Aurora Borealis

I have a Ryzen 1700 in mean time until Ryzen 3000 series comes out. If they go back on their future/backwards compatible "am4 till 2020" claim, I'm completely swearing off AMD. You can shit on Intel for releasing multiple chipset upgrades, but they never flat out promised it. That was the sole reason why I went with a 1700 over intel this generation. I can overlook stupid marketing talk that overexaggerates things, but this would be crossing the line in terms of broken promises. Please don't let me down AMD. And don't you let me down either, Paul, don't turn into a gamermeld clickbait "i have a source and make up catchy lies for subs" bullshitter.

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overcorpse
overcorpse

Fuck.Just bought a 2600x.Al ittle part of me just died :(

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caster troy
caster troy

I can tell you but then I will have to kill you.

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