AMD Athlon 200GE Review & 3.9GHz Overclocking | Budget Gaming CPU


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    We overclocked the AMD Athlon 200GE to 3.9GHz on the MSI B350 Tomahawk, then reviewed the CPU when in use with a discrete GPU.
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    Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3411-amd-athlon-200ge-review-overclocking-to-3-9ghz
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    The AMD Athlon 200GE CPU is an "APU," technically, in that it has an integrated, ultra low-end graphics solution on-die. Taking up die space means a weaker CPU component, but some additional versatility as a standalone part. This makes it a weaker R3 2200G, but similar in basic concept. What we wanted to know was if the AMD Athlon 200GE could replace the old G3258 or G4560 in market position: A cheap CPU for for pairing with a cheap dGPU, creating a combo below the R5 2400G in price, but above it in performance. The R3 2200G earned our Best Budget Gaming award a few weeks ago, and it still holds that, but a cheap CPU and dGPU combo would outperform the 2200G, in theory, it's just that cheap CPUs haven't really been good lately. The Pentium line is too expensive with the 14nm shortage, leaving us with the relatively new 200GE for review. In the process of working on the review, we learned that the 200GE overclocks with MSI boards and AGESA 1.0.0.6, something we explored in this benchmark.
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Vor 14 Tage
Terminator Hr
Terminator Hr

Hey Do ASROCK B450M-HDV support athlon 200ge

Vor 13 Tage
Renan José
Renan José

Did you gave up of the 9980xe direct-die cooling ? Take a look on what those Koreans did : http://youtu.be/zX6ckHAr0Mg

Vor 13 Tage
Chris M
Chris M

Would this be an interesting CPU for a DIY NAS?

Vor 13 Tage
James Whitmire
James Whitmire

Granted this will only cover those near a Micro Center, where the Athlon 200GE is around $55 retail, Micro Center sells the 2200G for $79.00. Just Food for thought.

Vor 13 Tage
Haniel Medrano
Haniel Medrano

Can I overclock this cpu with a motherboard Gigabyte b450m ds3h?

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polentusmax
polentusmax

Im afraid the pci 3.0 x4 is limiting more the rtx 2080 ti than the athlon, this test is a little bit wrong because the g5400 will perform better with this powerfull gpu

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Alistair Blaire
Alistair Blaire

It seems we're at the point where a $55 APU is comparable to what is in a PS4.

Vor 5 Tage
Petar Staynov
Petar Staynov

Perfect CPU for an office PC.

Vor 6 Tage
bob1029384
bob1029384

I think the GPU is the most interesting part of the 200GE. You should do a bit on this specifically since it wasnt covered at all here. I've seen some impressive demos from other youtubers indicating it might perform better than expected in a lot of games. Could be an extreme budget option for more people than it may seem at first glance.

Vor 6 Tage
spook30
spook30

2:09 nice fingerprint and filthy magnifier.

Vor 7 Tage
johnm2012
johnm2012

Don't say that the Athlon's iGPU is weak. It's a lot stronger than the Pentium's.

Vor 8 Tage
Defiant GTI
Defiant GTI

hey man, nice hair

Vor 10 Tage
Gottlieb M.
Gottlieb M.

I would really like an upgrade to AM4 but DDR4 prices are too damn high. I have just got a new good job, so screw all this. I am happy, fam.

Vor 10 Tage
Blue Eyes White Teddy
Blue Eyes White Teddy

Is it my computer or are those black background areas fuzzy?

Vor 10 Tage
FAHRENHEIT .D ELIO
FAHRENHEIT .D ELIO

AMD said all ryzen cpus are unlocked, this isnt ryzen its athlon branding..-. DUMY

Vor 11 Tage
MazeFrame
MazeFrame

A little Athlon for office and "mom broke her pc"-tasks. Neat.

Vor 11 Tage
Milo Godeke
Milo Godeke

It takes 5 seconds of work to show that the box in the background is a Titan V. You guys couldn't do that? We've had that box since the launch of the Titan V. It says "TITAN V" on it.

Vor 11 Tage
Dubsys
Dubsys

would this at stock be powerful enough for something like 1080p transcoding for plex? currently have an i5 2500k + gtx760 box for it but sorta want to go to something that sucks a little less power and will give me a reason to buy a shiny new box

Vor 12 Tage
Brad Huiberts
Brad Huiberts

Having problems with my 200ge its stuck at 1.6 GHz wont run at 3200 .. gigabyte b350m ds3h 1 dimm 8gb 2400... tried all Ver bios's with no success going to do a windows update .. cpuz see's cpu but values forzen.. amd master also registering it stuck at 1.6... in bios its running at 3200.. userbenchmark gives it a tree trunk

Vor 12 Tage
KshiTiZ guRiA
KshiTiZ guRiA

Is there TITAN RTX behind you... White coloured box .

Vor 12 Tage
Michelle L
Michelle L

Has anyone got a 8700k from china? They are 150$ less , Wish someone would get it and send Gamers Nexus it to test. real scam?

Vor 12 Tage
Michelle L
Michelle L

OMG!!! AMD Athlon is still a thing , Am i the only one that thinks very old when hearing that name?

Vor 12 Tage
Willaim Kazer
Willaim Kazer

Great wall PSU apart to show kind of crap it?

Vor 12 Tage
Zain Rizvi
Zain Rizvi

i just ordered my pc parts Athlon 200GE (55 pound) B450 Tomahawk (85 Pound) CX500M (35 pound) GTX 760 4gb (80 pound) Cooler Master Lite 5 RGB (50 pound) DDR4 (2 x 4gb) 50 pound WD Green M.2 120gb SSD (12 pound) So for 360 pound i have a decent, budget PC with a really good upgrade path. This is my first PC Build coming from an XBOX One S. I am very excited

Vor 12 Tage
kilosbxl
kilosbxl

RIP pentium))) great cpu for HTPC!

Vor 12 Tage
Kathdath
Kathdath

would like to see your recommendation for a budget/cheap dedicated streaming pc. How cheap can one go for a streaming 1080p without use of a capture card (for 2 pc set-up)

Vor 12 Tage
RawLu
RawLu

\m/ AMD \m/

Vor 12 Tage
kumbandit
kumbandit

So 7980XE takes half the time of the 200GE in those turns. Now compare the price :D :D :D EDIT: On Newegg 2000+ US vs 60-ish US 2050/64=32 So for only 3200% more money, you can cut the wait time in half (price difference in cooling solution and motherboard not included), what a time to live in :D

Vor 12 Tage
brunocar
brunocar

why the 570 and not the 560, a better budget card.

Vor 13 Tage
proesterchen
proesterchen

I'm sorry, but that cache theory is complete bunk. All Zen cores have identical cache hierarchies, meaning that each compute thread has access to identical caching latencies at least up through L2 (might include L3, but I haven't checked if that does apply to all SKUs across the board) regardless of the total core count, and hence aggregated total L1+L2 cache size. These latter reduced aggregated total lower-level cache sizes are only a function of core count, which is mostly orthogonal to per-thread performance.

Vor 13 Tage
Richie Zombie
Richie Zombie

Once the charts come out I pretty much stop paying attention

Vor 13 Tage
Kenneth James
Kenneth James

With AMD striking Intel as hard as they are now...it's inexcusable that the Pentiums are prices as high as they are...not when you can up in these parts get a Ryzen 2200G that'll slap a Pentium around completely and now with the chance to send a 200GE into overclocking...well need I say more? Celeron-ish pricing with decent horsepower.

Vor 13 Tage
MrSammy
MrSammy

😒 thats creepy afk! its true, i just chkd, the $39 G4560 has disappeared completely from our local Microcenter stores! nooooo! 😰

Vor 13 Tage
LtSheppard
LtSheppard

Why no 8350k on the tests

Vor 13 Tage
Todd Simone
Todd Simone

At 12:13 half the CPU's in the list are missing

Vor 13 Tage
Todd Simone
Todd Simone

In reference to 10:15 correct me if I'm wrong but if you turned the graphics up wouldn't the framerate increase?

Vor 13 Tage
FlyBaby
FlyBaby

When rattling off numbers of things like cache it would REALLY be helpful if you put the numbers side by side ON THE SCREEN so we could see them and compare for ourselves. My biggest complaint about your videos is that you just rattle on through these things and they become like noise, no meaning because we cannot process these random numbers sionce we cant see things in balance as a whole.

Vor 13 Tage
Doom2pro
Doom2pro

I see the Great Wall PSU from the "Over Powered" PC torn down, are we going to see a Teardown review the likes of Johnny Guru?

Vor 13 Tage
psp7677
psp7677

no more 7700k in the list?

Vor 13 Tage
Phillip Habsburg
Phillip Habsburg

AMD's 4c 4t is shit compared to Intel's 4c 4t cpu's.

Vor 13 Tage
Justin Legrande
Justin Legrande

The i3's are all overpriced. i3-8100 is $125, $25 more than the R3 2200G, and has an exponentially worse iGPU than the 2200G. Their computational power otherwise is on par with each other. i3-8350K is $170, which is $10 more expensive than the 6 core 12 thread R5 2600, thus pricing itself out of it's target market. Granted, the i3-8350K has better single-threaded and gaming performance than the 2400G when paired with a discrete GPU; but then again, for $160, the 2400G allows budget builds to operate surprisingly well without a discrete GPU... So yeah, the i3 line is pretty pointless right now.

Vor 13 Tage
TheJuggtron
TheJuggtron

These CPU's remind me of when I first started building PC's while being abjectly poor. You would start with only the Mobo, cpu and an old (and I mean OLD) video card and over the year get new parts when there was money available. We've become so used to having so much money and computer prices so low that we forget what it was like.

Vor 13 Tage
Pouya
Pouya

4:49 just nitpicking here but that's technically incorrect as every die has it's own unique layout, if I'm not mistaken. it's even more common for the L3 cache to be in the middle as it's shared between cores for example Haswell E has it's L3 cache in the middle and cores on the side: http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Haswell-Labeled.jpg or Coffee Lake has it between the cores: http://en.wikichip.org/w/images/thumb/3/39/coffee_lake_die_%28hexa_core%29_%28annotated%29.png/650px-coffee_lake_die_%28hexa_core%29_%28annotated%29.png

Vor 13 Tage
ccricers
ccricers

I'm glad you did this review for testing discrete GPUs. I own a 4560T (2.9 Ghz) and think this Athlon would be at least a decent switch back into AMD processors again. Because I agree 2C-4T processors by Intel are not worth their price point anymore.

Vor 13 Tage
ugzz
ugzz

Neat, but looking forward to seeing numbers using the IGPU, you haven't fully reviewed it without!

Vor 13 Tage
Edward Allen
Edward Allen

But, what happens when it is under LN2? (/sarcasm).

Vor 13 Tage
Adrian Testa-Avila
Adrian Testa-Avila

I used to do 3d renders on my C2Q6600. took 2-3 days, on average.

Vor 13 Tage
G Roberts
G Roberts

As AMD accurately says, "No Pentium, no problem!"

Vor 13 Tage
Maxxarcade
Maxxarcade

If Adobe would optimize Premiere for Threadripper and Ryzen, Intel might lose a lot of market. That 2990WX is a beast in other rendering apps!

Vor 13 Tage
bradleypariah
bradleypariah

Your font in the thumbnail made 200GE look like it says 2 o o g e. I read it like "twooge" with a soft g.

Vor 13 Tage
Bandit Darville
Bandit Darville

Have you guys not tested the i3 8100? I'm curious how it holds up against the Sandy and -Ivy Bridge muscles from back in the day.

Vor 13 Tage
joczo97
joczo97

Imagine if another fail would enable the 200GE to unlock extra cores or something like back in the AM3 times :D

Vor 13 Tage
platinumjsi
platinumjsi

Another RTX Titan

Vor 13 Tage
2Fast4Mellow
2Fast4Mellow

Because the Intel CPU was not tested with all titles, I just could not give this review a thumbs up. Sorry..

Vor 13 Tage
R K
R K

Bascially do not buy a dual core anything in 2018 if gaming is going to be something you are into.

Vor 13 Tage
Michael S.
Michael S.

I'd keep that CPU stock and run a low power server on it.

Vor 13 Tage
Karine Mallet
Karine Mallet

tldw; dont buy a 2c 4t cpu in 2018.

Vor 13 Tage
boothegoo pc
boothegoo pc

3.9GHz - Now that's progress.

Vor 13 Tage
Cavey Möth
Cavey Möth

SO MUCH BLUEEE! I'm digging the color choices/grading lately. You don't see a lot of blues these days.

Vor 13 Tage
Nick Bransford
Nick Bransford

Does this not allow you to overclock the integrated GPU? Or is it like the old Skylake non-K OC hack where it actually disables the iGPU?

Vor 13 Tage
ivo215
ivo215

nVidia have announced their new Titan RTX. Let's see how many reviewers are going to go bankrupt, it costs an obscene amount. The RTX Titan uses the same TU102 die as the RTX2080, only with more tensorcores unlocked, loads more GDDR6 and a wider bus.

Vor 13 Tage
gertjan van der meij
gertjan van der meij

3:51 ... Because the 200GE is Athlon , not Ryzen .

Vor 13 Tage
gertjan van der meij
gertjan van der meij

For people who want this MSI BIOS , it is this one : AGESA Code 1.0.0.6 ( MS-7A34 )

Vor 13 Tage
Forger FortySeven
Forger FortySeven

Who still running a 486 dx2 in 2018

Vor 13 Tage
finnduino
finnduino

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Vor 13 Tage
Toby M
Toby M

This is one overpowered psu u got there :D

Vor 13 Tage
gertjan van der meij
gertjan van der meij

So Steve , what would you do ? An 2200G for € 99,- or this 220GE for € 55,- ? ( it is only for my office , email / word / watching YT / etc )

Vor 13 Tage
himynameistim
himynameistim

Every updoot I get is from an AMD employee who appreciate's Gamers Nexus's appreciation of their product decisions.

Vor 13 Tage
gertjan van der meij
gertjan van der meij

BTW ... Can't wait for the Athlon 220GE & 240GE ! I wonder what they can do on this MSI bios ! Do you know WHEN those are coming ?

Vor 13 Tage
gertjan van der meij
gertjan van der meij

LOL , i wanted this cpu for my second ( for my office ) pc , did order it with an Gigabyte motherboard , but cancel it , after i heard this yesterday , i ordered an MSI B450-A PRO instead ;-) ( cost me 18 bucks more , but it is also chosen , so i can upgrade later )

Vor 13 Tage
John J
John J

I feel like this would be a good cpu for a media pc. Since it's cheap and will handle none game and work loads just fine. Plus on board graphics removes the need to have a graphics card. So pop this on a cheap mini itx, with a stick of ram, and a big hard drive. And you have a nice a little pc you can plug into you're tv for watching various things.

Vor 13 Tage
BigHeadClan
BigHeadClan

AMD Athlon and Resident Evil 2... What year is this!!!!

Vor 13 Tage
sadlerbw9
sadlerbw9

This is an interesting video, but I’m still pissed the 2500X is OEM-only. That and the 2300X could have dominated the low end thanks to intels 14nm problems, but noooo. AMD was too afraid of cannibalizing 2600 and APU sales, or something equally goofy. Overclocking shit chips is still fun AMD. Let us have our fun!

Vor 13 Tage
Josh Boucher
Josh Boucher

Is there a diffuser over that LED panel?

Vor 13 Tage
Muzakki Fatch
Muzakki Fatch

hey i have the athlon 200 ge and msi b450m pro vdh motherboard, 2x4gb 3000mhz ram which is clocked at 2667 by default, i have updated my bios to the latest bios (7A38vM2) with agesa 1.0.0.6, i try to oc this processor but when i went to oc menu, it locked to 3,20 Ghz.. what should i do to overclock my athlon 200 ge?

Vor 13 Tage
HavokCloud
HavokCloud

Skip a few meals lol. Hilarious...

Vor 13 Tage
Nicholas Kesterson
Nicholas Kesterson

I might have missed it. I thought I heard something about it. But can ryzen master or other software synthetic or program based over clocks work on this CPU? If not I have a two tomahawk mobo's I might try this out my self.

Vor 13 Tage
HKILLER888
HKILLER888

is that the great wall PSU from the wall mart PC? so does this mean they actually didn't replace your PC or something?

Vor 13 Tage
Kaz
Kaz

So are we not going to talk about the Tekken World Tour finals?

Vor 13 Tage
Mindaugas Jocionis
Mindaugas Jocionis

Tried on MSI B450M PRO-M2  multiplier unlocked.

Vor 13 Tage
DestroyerFather
DestroyerFather

good stuff amazing review

Vor 13 Tage
This American
This American

Perfect for me as I want a budget Linux machine. And do some video editing for vlogging in the future. So again perfect timing for a review thanks!

Vor 13 Tage
William Shreckengost
William Shreckengost

2:09 Can I come over to wipe that lens off?

Vor 13 Tage
Space Reptile
Space Reptile

"review w/ a twist" by doing what sofar EVERYONE has been doing and not actually testing the igpu and comparing it to a i3 / R3 2200G / A8 apu

Vor 13 Tage
Mikel Palma
Mikel Palma

Aquaman is talking now techy things.. nce video though.. :)

Vor 13 Tage
Atak Snajpera
Atak Snajpera

Why your T-Shirt is asymmetric? Looks weird to be honest.

Vor 13 Tage
JLCfreitas
JLCfreitas

didn't anyone noticed the RTX titan X white box back there?

Vor 13 Tage
2wieners4me
2wieners4me

Everyone noticed the box but it's been told like 99999999 times that it's an old Titan V box, not an RTX Titan.

Vor 13 Tage
June Burton
June Burton

The non-x parts shouldn't be overclockable.

Vor 13 Tage
Milan Kostić
Milan Kostić

I think typical Athlon 200GE buyer wanna... APU for about $50, mobo for $50 and RAM for $50... so that he could be ultimately bellow $200 and to say "look, i am still faster than laptops for $400 or bellow" :D

Vor 13 Tage
Bloodpact Guild
Bloodpact Guild

At this level, just buy used five+ year old i5s. Even those are struggling with Star Citizen though. The quad thread is dying out, becoming strictly obsolete.

Vor 13 Tage
saajanbedi
saajanbedi

why there is no 9700k in benchmark charts!!

Vor 13 Tage
Randall Draco
Randall Draco

3.9 is almost 4000. 4k! RTX titan will run 4K tracing confirmed!

Vor 13 Tage
Chris Chen
Chris Chen

200GE + 1050TI?

Vor 13 Tage
Rigard Landman
Rigard Landman

Anyone notice the title mistake at 11:50 ?

Vor 13 Tage
EXO 2xii
EXO 2xii

'skip a few meals to get a better cpu'. :D

Vor 13 Tage
olov244
olov244

A. M. D. - A. M. D. - A. M. D. !

Vor 13 Tage
Dim TS7
Dim TS7

*Not benchmark captures*

Vor 13 Tage
SerpentXSF
SerpentXSF

I knew what you meant but at 6:43 you said "intels closes competition is the G5600" but you meant AMD. Doesnt matter I was just "Nitpicking" like Linus said you "dont do" lol. Got to be critical or nothing will improve

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Ray Ward
Ray Ward

Nope, the way he worded it is right sorry. The closest competition Intel offers is the g5600. Hence it being worded Intel's closest competition. It might make more sense though to use competitor. "Intel's closest competitor is the g5600", but the two words are interchangeable here.

Vor 12 Tage
Nishliau
Nishliau

Waiting for this. For some reason the really low end parts are usually the most interesting to see.

Vor 13 Tage
skyler padilla
skyler padilla

So rtx titan coming and Linus and jay two cents are nvidia puppets ? Doing a marketing campaign for them??

Vor 13 Tage
Ray Ward
Ray Ward

That's a titan v box. Its been there for months. Make assumptions much?

Vor 12 Tage
SkyForce6700
SkyForce6700

If I where this budget limited I would just look for used parts with superior performance on the used market. I can find a 2600K Sandybridge system with 16GB DDR3 RAM for sale at just $100. So that is what i would get...

Vor 13 Tage
damasterpiece08
damasterpiece08

this is the 3rd video i'm watching on this and i know all the info from the first one on TechEpiphany, but i just couldn't miss THE STEVES !

Vor 13 Tage
Maurice H
Maurice H

yeahyeahyeah 2200g all day if you're on a budget yes it's a little bit more expensive but with something cheap like a 750 ti you have a very capable 1080 machine

Vor 13 Tage
Guilherme Bressan
Guilherme Bressan

Can you pleeeease test the new NF A12 against nb-Eloop B12? Specifically the noise-to-temps ratio at different speeds!

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